post #211 of Old 05-01-2012, 01:13 AM Thread Starter
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Oh no really? $700? I wonder what your options are. If the officer at the scene declared it a non-reportable accident, do you have to pay still? I don't know how things work out in VA.

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I do not know HOW THE HECK they managed to claim 700 worth of damage. If the guy returned the car and never said a word, nothing would have ever happened. The cop had to ask if there was any damage. I guess to the other driver "yield" means "stop". My deductable is 500 but if it goes through insurance (state farm) I don't know what that'll do to the rates. All around a crappy situation for something so so so minor. I don't know all the rules etc either. Dad was going to look into it more. Im so mad that I let that slip and did this. Stuff happens so quick.

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They're not even going to fix it. I've had rental cars with all kinds of body damage. Far worse than a 1" scratch. It just goes to their bottom line. Rent a car for a day? Pocket $10. Claim $700 damage and don't fix it, pocket $700.
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Im sure your right. If I remember, they were charging me 125 because the car couldn't be used to be rented out. Jeez just stupid crap. They guy used his own insurance to insure the rental car. I thought you paid like 20 bucks for the rental insurance that covered like everything?

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A couple new developments in Billzcat1land.

Researching the possibility of retrofitting the pre-02 oil pressure sender to the v8 to gain actual pressure gauge function. We've established the later gauge clusters will respond to gauge input. Established that the sensors are physically interchangeable. Problem is that the later switch-type is a single pin while the earlier is a 3- pin. Probably power, ground, signal. Since I don't have an early-build service manual I don't know what is what and if it takes + 12v or +5v. So that's shelved for the moment.

Yesterday I got some familiar grinding from the front brakes in reverse...the metal-on-metal type. Repeat performance today. Forward motion gives no grinding. The right front inner pad is a bit tapered and has a whopping 1mm or so of pad material left. Yay. So the brake job has now made itself a higher priority than I had expected. Good thing my new (renewed old) commute is extremely short! I'll be ordering brakes on my first paycheck.
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Another development. Since I determined that the Rubicon take-offs aren't going to suit my needs, I have been considering other wheels. The most compelling offering is the JK 16" 5- spoke steelies. There are dozens on craigslist. They are dirt cheap and look ok. I don't need flash, I need function. They are only a half lb heavier than Moabs and open up a world of possibilities in tire choices with 245/75-16. Plus tires are cheaper. If I don't like them I'm only out $80. Or I can paint them. Who knows.

I'm still torn on going more aggressive with tires since the Jeep is a short-distance DD, no longer the primary driver/family vehicle. Or going with a known good like SilentArmors again or maybe Cooper Discoverer ST -an amazing tire that I wouldn't mind running.

Of course I'll probably change my mind again a dozen times before I pull the trigger.
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I do not know HOW THE HECK they managed to claim 700 worth of damage. If the guy returned the car and never said a word, nothing would have ever happened. The cop had to ask if there was any damage. I guess to the other driver "yield" means "stop". My deductable is 500 but if it goes through insurance (state farm) I don't know what that'll do to the rates. All around a crappy situation for something so so so minor. I don't know all the rules etc either. Dad was going to look into it more. Im so mad that I let that slip and did this. Stuff happens so quick.
used to work for enterprise, it would suck to confront the person about dmgs they had no idea about, but at the end of the day, you signed a contract and you are responsible for a car no matter who damaged it. now if you have documents stating that the other person was at fault, yes you will get your money back and the ins company will take care of everything.

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They're not even going to fix it. I've had rental cars with all kinds of body damage. Far worse than a 1" scratch. It just goes to their bottom line. Rent a car for a day? Pocket $10. Claim $700 damage and don't fix it, pocket $700.
the way the company told us was that at the end of the life of the rental car, they have to fix all the scuffs/dents like it was a new car. if it is a major damage where there is a liability of fault for renting a damaged vehicle, that vehicle will get fixed asap.

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Im sure your right. If I remember, they were charging me 125 because the car couldn't be used to be rented out. Jeez just stupid crap. They guy used his own insurance to insure the rental car. I thought you paid like 20 bucks for the rental insurance that covered like everything?
why did they charge you 125?? was it your rental??


sorry for hijacking just want to know some info lol
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Another development. Since I determined that the Rubicon take-offs aren't going to suit my needs, I have been considering other wheels. The most compelling offering is the JK 16" 5- spoke steelies. There are dozens on craigslist. They are dirt cheap and look ok. I don't need flash, I need function. They are only a half lb heavier than Moabs and open up a world of possibilities in tire choices with 245/75-16. Plus tires are cheaper. If I don't like them I'm only out $80. Or I can paint them. Who knows.

I'm still torn on going more aggressive with tires since the Jeep is a short-distance DD, no longer the primary driver/family vehicle. Or going with a known good like SilentArmors again or maybe Cooper Discoverer ST -an amazing tire that I wouldn't mind running.

Of course I'll probably change my mind again a dozen times before I pull the trigger.
you should really consider the duratracs
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used to work for enterprise, it would suck to confront the person about dmgs they had no idea about, but at the end of the day, you signed a contract and you are responsible for a car no matter who damaged it. now if you have documents stating that the other person was at fault, yes you will get your money back and the ins company will take care of everything. the way the company told us was that at the end of the life of the rental car, they have to fix all the scuffs/dents like it was a new car. if it is a major damage where there is a liability of fault for renting a damaged vehicle, that vehicle will get fixed asap.

why did they charge you 125?? was it your rental??

sorry for hijacking just want to know some info lol
It "technically" was my fault. But the guy had stopped unnecessarily at a yield. Was not expecting him to stop because there were no cars coming... By the time I noticed and slammed the brakes, it was not enough and love tapped the rental car. (I was driving my WJ, there is no damage at all to my Jeep, nothing). So, it left a little scratch and ding in the rental car bumper. The $125 is for the rental car not being able to be used while it is being "repaired". Because of the "damages" those two little marks, I am being charged with the cost to fix which came out to total around 700 dollars.

Billz, if you dont wan this all on your thread, let me know and we can move it over to mine.

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I know, I know, Duratracs are the go-to tire for everyone. There have been a couple choice reviews that I took to heart about sidewall strength, trail damage, and tread squirm. I'm probably overthinking it but I talked myself out of DTs a couple weeks ago. I'll probably talk myself back into them. That LR Disco of Aaron's is on the Discoverer ST-Cs (which just have a more tear-resistant tread for sharp rocks) and they have treated him well. My SAs have done the same. There are a lot of good tires out there. It makes it harder to choose one.

If we price things out - Goodyear SilentArmors P-metric $178/tire w/$100 rebate, Discoverer ST-Maxx Load Range E (new design) $180/tire, Duratracs Load Range C $192/tire w/ $100 rebate. I'd like to get into an LT-rated tire if I'm going to get more serious about wheeling. The Duratracs and the ST-Maxx are considered "hybrid" tire types as well, pretty much good in all trail conditions but I do value toughness in a tire. ST-Maxx are 3-ply, DTs are 2-ply. Both are 18/32" tread depth. Ahhhh why must I overthink this so?!

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You could look into the tires that I have. The Yokohama Geolanders have been an all around good tire. I really do not have that many complaints about them. They are wearing faster then I would like, but then again I drive hard on them. Burnouts, fast turns, etc. They were CHEAP(er) then most tires that I was looking at and that is what sold me. I do not know the "specs" of them. But, they are rated a 44 max PSI at full load if that means anything. Pretty quiet on the HW and aren't too aggressive for DD'ing but still do well off road. I don't do 'hardcore' off roading, but they work for me being on a budget!

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yeah i also read about the sidewall strength of the dt, but at the end i felt like it had plenty of reviews to warrant me spending over 700 lol or just go all out and buy the goodyear mt/r lol
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Michael - I'm not trying to talk trash on your tires, I am sure they are good, I'm just shopping on the premium end of the market. Oh lord there's just no way to say that without being a jerk.

Byung - There is also that... so many happy people, so few negatives. Like I said. Overthinking.
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I'm not trying to talk trash on your tires, I am sure they are good, I'm just shopping on the premium end of the market. Oh lord there's just no way to say that without being a jerk.
Don't worry about it! I didn't know what you were looking for so I just threw them out there.

How about some Goodyear MT/R's with the Kevlar in the sidewalls.

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Indeed they are! The Silent Armors are essentially the A/T version, uses the same carcass with a different tread pattern. And they are great! I know they will perform well for everything I use them for but my stupid brain always wants to try new tires. That's the only reason I have to not get them again. They have been flawless for me.

Also, I've seen an MTR/K take a gash through the sidewall on the trail. It wasn't even a trail hazard that did it! It was a JKS Quick Disconnect post that got steered into while we were all pulling a U-turn due to excessive snow.
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