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Unread 08-11-2009, 08:23 AM   #76
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if it came off a 4.7 with a 242 behind it, (did they even produce a WJ with that combo?) then i can see the shaft being a different length. the engine blocks are different lengths....
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Unread 08-11-2009, 09:17 AM   #77
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axles really arent that bad to work on. as long as you know what youre getting into. I just did my first re-gear and it really wasnt as hard as i thought. VERY time consuming though. but swapping in a d44a from a 35 is just a couple bolts, bleeding the brakes and shortening the driveshaft afterwords.
If you leave your brakes attached to the Jeep, you don't even have to bleed them. That's what I did on my 5.9.
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Unread 08-11-2009, 01:02 PM   #78
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If you leave your brakes attached to the Jeep, you don't even have to bleed them. That's what I did on my 5.9.
unless you previously had drum brakes...
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Unread 08-11-2009, 05:05 PM   #79
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dont forget that the different engines also have different transmissions behind them as well. the 4.7 trans is shorter than the 4.0 trans (if memory serves me correct)
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Unread 08-11-2009, 05:39 PM   #80
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Without taking off the boot and seeing how much of the slip/splines are showing it is hard to say for sure whether it is too short or not.
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Unread 08-11-2009, 07:29 PM   #81
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Without taking off the boot and seeing how much of the slip/splines are showing it is hard to say for sure whether it is too short or not.
I was thinking that earlier, I just haven't gone outside to mess with it since its been raining all day today. Didn't you have to convert over to a double cardan like I did, or did yours already come like that from the factory?

I'll probably pull the boot off tomorrow and see what's going on under there.
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Unread 08-11-2009, 08:46 PM   #82
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Neither of mine were DC...I converted both to DC.
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Unread 08-11-2009, 10:49 PM   #83
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Neither of mine were DC...I converted both to DC.
I assume you did this after Claytons via Carolina Driveline?
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Unread 08-12-2009, 07:52 AM   #84
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Rear driveshaft is from Tom Wood (Installed the 242 SYE) and the front is a longer Carolina Driveline drive shaft (that replaced my Tom Wood drive shaft). I needed another new front drive shaft because when I pushed my axle forward to clear the 35's I was at the limit and was getting very mild vibes.
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Just got done checking out the splines on the driveshaft.

Here is what it looks like when its in the yoke, just without the boot.



I didn't have a tape measure next to me, so I just marked the original position with my thumb.



What you guys think? Lengthen it or is it alright?
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Unread 08-12-2009, 03:13 PM   #86
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I would say it is right on the edge of needing to be lengthened. When it is assembled and both ends connected to the yokes, and you push/pull on the middle of the driveshaft where the two halves connect, do you have any play/slop in there? If you do, I would get around to replacing it at your earliest convenience and keep this one as a spare (that is what I did).
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Actually, I may be a bit confused in the pics. How much engagement do you have? It looks like you have 2-3" at least in the second pic which is plenty.
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Actually, I may be a bit confused in the pics. How much engagement do you have? It looks like you have 2-3" at least in the second pic which is plenty.
The second picture shows how much engagement I have. And yes, I would say at least 3" of splines are left.

Whew, glad I can put my mind at ease on that issue.
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Unread 08-12-2009, 04:49 PM   #89
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Bama,
It came straight from my 4.7L. I'm not sure what the issue is with your set-up, unless your axle is pushed too far forward. In any event, if you have 3" splines left, I'd say you're set.
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Unread 08-12-2009, 06:41 PM   #90
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It came straight from my 4.7L. I'm not sure what the issue is with your set-up, unless your axle is pushed too far forward. In any event, if you have 3" splines left, I'd say you're set.
Yea, I guess I just figured it would slip in there like CV shaft did; a bad assumption on my end. The only thing that was putting up a fight was the rubber boot which made it a chore to place into the axle yoke. I slid the top part of the boot down a little bit and its perfect now.

Thanks folks.
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