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post #601 of 1481 Old 12-24-2010, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
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i read somewhere where someone bought lokar cables for the caddi brakes and it "kind of" worked. Not to sure about using the stock cables. This is why i havent went 1 tons i would love to have a 9" in the rear but it seems complicated when you get down to keeping a dd rig.
For sure, it can get complicated when you start digging in to it. I guess I'll have to do some more research here soon. I mean, not having the ebrake is not really a deal breaker, but I really kind of want it because of where I live. My house is built on top of a hill and anywhere you park there is some sort of decline.


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post #602 of 1481 Old 12-25-2010, 03:31 PM Thread Starter
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Been thinking a lot about what I want to do with the Jeep over the last couple days. I'm starting to have second thoughts about the axles and what not. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have some beefy axles, but I think I just got a wild hair and started dreaming big without really thinking about reality. My Jeep is my DD and will be for some time. I've also taken into consideration the expenses to get the axles where I want them (gears, lockers, chromo front shafts, new bearings/seals, trusses, welding labor costs). I could instead use that money to get my claytons, 35s and gears. I'll wheel it until I feel the need for the 44/60 combo. I feel like I might just be getting in over my head when I start swapping in the axles. Plus I want to see how much I actually get to wheel it before I go and get some big axles.

Just my thoughts from a lazy Christmas day. Hope everyone had a good Christmas.

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post #603 of 1481 Old 12-25-2010, 03:38 PM
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I had those same exact thoughts Daniel. Look at all of the people that rock crawl down in moab and rubicon, they have the 30/44a combo or have once run the combo and have done some pretty gnarly things. Id say save your pennies for the clayton LA and 35's. That alone will get you places, even w/o lockers.

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post #604 of 1481 Old 12-25-2010, 05:05 PM Thread Starter
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I had those same exact thoughts Daniel. Look at all of the people that rock crawl down in moab and rubicon, they have the 30/44a combo or have once run the combo and have done some pretty gnarly things. Id say save your pennies for the clayton LA and 35's. That alone will get you places, even w/o lockers.
Yea, I know a good set of tires will get me a lot further. I started thinking of all the peole that did run the 30/44a combo without much complaint and figured it should be fine with my amount of wheeling I do and wheeling style. Once I thought about 5 or more people that wheeled with the combo and the amount of time/money I'd save, I decided that the axles could wait til later. I might just start on my Clayton LA payment plan here soon.

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post #605 of 1481 Old 12-25-2010, 10:09 PM
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Man you have a lot of blood, sweat, and tears in your WJ. Very nice work. It all looks top notch.

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post #606 of 1481 Old 12-26-2010, 11:31 AM
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nice to see you actually thining about it...i woldnt toss all your eggs in one basket im sure you have more hobbies than just your WJ...30 should be fine with the cvs and 35's unlocked id keep it...or just hold out for used chromos for it like i did or go with the dutchman route...theres plenty of guys running 35's locked and bigger on lp30 and or hp30s...i would have told you to consider a different rear axle first but you already have your 44a in with a truss and locker...good luck dude

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post #607 of 1481 Old 12-26-2010, 01:10 PM Thread Starter
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Man you have a lot of blood, sweat, and tears in your WJ. Very nice work. It all looks top notch.
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nice to see you actually thining about it...i woldnt toss all your eggs in one basket im sure you have more hobbies than just your WJ...30 should be fine with the cvs and 35's unlocked id keep it...or just hold out for used chromos for it like i did or go with the dutchman route...theres plenty of guys running 35's locked and bigger on lp30 and or hp30s...i would have told you to consider a different rear axle first but you already have your 44a in with a truss and locker...good luck dude
Yea, the more I thought about it, the more it didn't seem like the practical thing to do right now. My jeep is probably my biggest hobby, but I do do other things besides the jeep. I'd love to start on my Chevy Nova project that I've wanted to do for years (finally a vehicle that I won't mind taking past 80mph!). But right now the plans are Clayton LAs, gears and tires. From there I'll wheel it til I feel the need for another build phase. My current setup should do me fine for the time being.

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post #608 of 1481 Old 12-26-2010, 01:45 PM
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yea for some reason i wouldnt feel comfortable about daily driving a jeep with axles that didnt come stock on it while running 37's...no reason why really if its properly done...i was sketchy about having the 8.8 put in but it didnt cost all that much more the 44a would have cost to buy and have geared and locked...

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post #609 of 1481 Old 12-26-2010, 03:07 PM
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Yeah i know how you feel,i took it even further and cant make up my mind to stick with 16in. wheels and tires or go down to 15in. and save money ,but only wheels that seem to work on 15in tires are the steel soft 8's but i like alum. wheels but not the stock ones,i like the pro comp matte black color wheels,what to do,what to do.
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post #610 of 1481 Old 12-31-2010, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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Finally had some decent weather to work on the Jeep today. Changed the engine oil and put new gear oil in both the diffs. I inpected both diffs pretty closely.

Everything in the front checked out alright with no real bad signs of wear on the ring/pinion or on the spider gears. The magnet had an acceptable amount of shavings on it. The fluid in the front was dark but didn't smell burnt or anything, just really dirty. Only thing I saw that I needed to do is replace the axle seals.

The rear diff didn't look bad either. The fluid was dirty, but not dark. Ring and pinion looked normal, as did the Aussie. No real signs of glitter in the fluid, which is good. Turns out the driver side seal is on its last leg and I'm starting to believe my driver side wheel bearing on the 44a is going bad. The new fluid helped it out a tad bit, but the noise is still there.

My plan right now is to get the Alloy USA axles for the 44a and put my new bearings/seals on those and keep my stock ones as spares.

Happy New Years!

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guess your keeping the stock axles to run 35's...not a bad choice yoll like the extra money in your pocket

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guess your keeping the stock axles to run 35's...not a bad choice yoll like the extra money in your pocket
Yea, I decided to keep them. I'll definitely like the extra money and time that won't be needed for figuring out bigger axles. One of my new year resolutions is to not put to much money into the Jeep and put some towards my second biggest hobby, coin collecting.

I start my full time job in the next couple weeks, so some fun stuff shouldn't be to far off.

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post #613 of 1481 Old 01-03-2011, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, well I've decided to park the Jeep since it's still making that real loud noise and the rear driver axle seal is toast. Figured this would be the perfect time to throw some of those chromos they just came out with in there. Problem is none of the axle lengths match up. And what's the Hydra-Lok thing? Don't think I've ever heard of it. Someone want to point me in the right direction...

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Driver LH w/ Hydra-Lok- 32.33"
Passenger RH w/ Hydra-Lok- 29.34"

Driver LH w/o Hydra-Lok- 31.34"
Passenger RH w/o Hydra-Lok- 30.34"
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Driver LH - 32-3/8" (32.375")
Passenger RH - 29-3/8" (29.375")
The Alloys are close with the Hydra-Lok axle legths. I guess a couple hundreths of an inch wouldn't really matter. How do I know if I have this Hydra-Lok axle?

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Hydro Lock is the QuadraDrive unit, the factory limited slip. Everyone calls it something else (vari-lock), but it actually says HydroLock right on the limited slip case.

If you have open diffs, you don't have the Hydrolock. If you have the Quadradrive, you have Hydrolock's.

The hydro locks (quadradrive) units actually use different axle shafts on each side, and the axle spline count is different than the open differentials in the WJ's.

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post #615 of 1481 Old 01-04-2011, 01:09 AM Thread Starter
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Well thats lame. Alloy needs to step their game up with make shafts for the open diffs for us locked up folks.

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