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Unread 06-19-2013, 06:38 PM   #46
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True! I never towed more than a log splitter with my old ZJ, but that hitch came in handy for pulling other things....once pulled an eight foot long kudzu root out off the ground that was as thick as my forearm with it, and some other unwanted shrubbery
Kudzu in Ohio? Good God I hope that **** stays east!

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Unread 06-19-2013, 06:53 PM   #47
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*rolls eyes* I guess we're the only vehicles that have this issue.. I mean.. it's not like ANY gas tank in the rear is a possible fire issue
but we are the only ones that have a plastic bumper stopping impact vs an explorer that has a steel bumper
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Unread 06-19-2013, 07:08 PM   #48
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Kudzu in Ohio? Good God I hope that **** stays east!
No no no no no good Lord no lol

I used to live in western North Carolina

Kudzu better not make it up here!
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Unread 06-19-2013, 07:12 PM   #49
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but we are the only ones that have a plastic bumper stopping impact vs an explorer that has a steel bumper
We've got a steel bumper too, ours is just covered in a hard candy shell
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Unread 06-19-2013, 07:25 PM   #50
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but we are the only ones that have a plastic bumper stopping impact vs an explorer that has a steel bumper
You have a steel bumper, it's under the plastic
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Unread 06-19-2013, 09:21 PM   #51
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That gives me a thought. If you take a jeep in to the dealer with a aftermarket steel bumper, think they would still install a hitch? I would think a heavy 1/4" plate steel bumper would work a whole lot better than a standard hitch in a rear end collision. Or will this recall apply to stock, non modified jeeps only?
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Unread 06-19-2013, 09:22 PM   #52
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That gives me a thought. If you take a jeep in to the dealer with a aftermarket steel bumper, think they would still install a hitch? I would think a heavy 1/4" plate steel bumper would work a whole lot better than a standard hitch in a rear end collision. Or will this recall apply to stock, non modified jeeps only?
I would think that all bets are off with modded Jeeps
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Unread 06-19-2013, 09:39 PM   #53
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I would think so too. But at the same time, who is to say how many mods are too many? Or, which mods are ok, and which aren't? Is a BB considered modded? That would raise the rear bumper up, thus allowing the nose of a car to go up under the rear of the jeep easier. That would be the perfect candidate for a hitch.

Not saying I agree either way. Mine isn't stock, and I added a hitch about 6 months ago. I won't be taking mine for the recall, so I could really care less lol
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Unread 06-19-2013, 10:05 PM   #54
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The whole thing is pretty absurd to say the least. The ZJ gets released in 1992 as a 93 model. Because of a few well publicized accidents, the Center for Auto Safety calls for a recall in 2009, lets see, thats 17 years later. 17 years. What an efficient watch dog. NHTSA did not take notice till CAS made an issue of it. The bigger issue is that they met the old standard when they were built. Then the standard was made much stricter for the 2008 year. But the standard for fuel tank safety, was the same, for more than 30 years. More than 30 keep that in mind. So how concerned were the federal regulators about this, ask yourself that. And there were many other vehicles made with rear mounted tanks, I could give you a list if you want, but one that is still made that way is the ultra pricey Mercedes Benz G-500, yes go look under one, just like the Jeeps but they do have a skid on it.

I'd advise any Jeep owner, if they are concerned, then put a hitch and skid on it. You will never get the total truth out of the gov't on this, and their statistical analysis is plainly flawed if you look at it. Myself, I feel that the hitch and skid should have been standard if they were going to use that design. If you look at how they mount on a ZJ, they add together a flange that is pretty thick on both sides of the tank, which stiffens up that area quite well. Plus if someone goes under your bumper then you are well protected. The factory ZJ skid is very stout.

If you have a lift and no skid then you are exposing yourself to extra risk. The factory hitch goes right behind the tank and the skid fits just below that so together they make it as safe as it can be. If Chrysler made these standard, we wouldn't even be having this discussion all these years later.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 10:18 PM   #55
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If Chrysler made these standard, we wouldn't even be having this discussion all these years later.
If they made automatic tracking & targeting rearward facing machine guns standard we wouldn't be having this discussion either, but that wont be the safety standard for 20 years.
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Unread 06-19-2013, 10:19 PM   #56
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lol it will be the most valuable thing on my truck, i wouldn't bother but a free factory hitch is for me
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Unread 06-19-2013, 10:23 PM   #57
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i was on my way to my grandparents house to borrow their small utility trailer once. i had put the draw bar in my hitch before i left my house. someone didnt stop in time, and they got a nice hole in their bumper
wish i took pictures, but i was already running late to my grandparent's and i just wanted to get on my way
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Unread 06-19-2013, 10:24 PM   #58
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Nice I hope I can get a free hitch setup on my ZJ lol
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Unread 06-19-2013, 10:24 PM   #59
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If they made automatic tracking & targeting rearward facing machine guns standard we wouldn't be having this discussion either, but that wont be the safety standard for 20 years.
Your statement makes no sense, anyone who looks are the rear design of these Jeeps and knows that the factory had available both a hitch and a skid plate would understand that adding those would have made it safer. Its not like it was some unknown technology. Now for the past 3 years the safety advocates have had a field day damaging Chrysler's reputation. If Chryco had spent the extra money on that, this would be a non issue. It happened to Ford, it happened to GM and they should have learned from that.
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Unread 06-20-2013, 12:01 AM   #60
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I'm debating weather I want to go to the trouble of taking the hitch I found in the junkyard 2 weeks ago to get a brand new one...from what I'm reading it's only going to be a hitch no skid. If that's the case, I don't think I will bother...

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