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Unread 10-16-2009, 12:25 PM   #76
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thats effing sick dude. mad props to ur pops.

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Unread 10-20-2009, 11:25 PM   #77
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Well its under way, I've been working on swapping all the WJ disc brake components over to the 9", I have an information thread here: Ford 9" with WJ disc brakes - MallCrawlin.com Forums

Some pics; backing plate redrilled and test fitted on 9" flange. Going to weld in the old holes as they are so cloes together.






The caliper bracket is flipped in the pics because I have to do a little shaving on the flange to get it to fit correctly.
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Unread 10-20-2009, 11:29 PM   #78
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nice Need to get together while I'm down here I am here for 12 mo.
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Unread 10-20-2009, 11:36 PM   #79
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Oh man I expect to have it together soon, next couple weeks! Snow wheelin's gunna be here soon and my buddies wanna get a trip in before. I've been thinking about throwing down for a set of KM2's in the 35" variety, but thats gunna happen after the axles done.

*edit* and I still forgot to answer your question ha, I'm down to get together and shoot the **** man!
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Unread 10-22-2009, 05:14 PM   #80
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So I'm not going to try to retain the ABS @ the axle shafts for speedo reading, going to come up with another solution. Even if you cut out the axle housing flange to fit the senor I think the larger diameter axle tubes are too big for it.

I trimmed the housing flange to fit the backing plate oriented correctly, I had it flipped backwards in the earlier pics to check the bolt holes.

Here it is. I bolted the bearing retainer up as a guide as it fit perfectly in the bracket. trimmed up:


And where the cutting was needed:


4.56 pinion on the right, 5.43 on the left. I'm lucky, West Coast Differentials (http://www.differentials.com/) is local to me so I get to buy my gears there.


Gears under way, 4.56 ring gear bolted up.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 05:21 PM   #81
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what gears did you get?
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Unread 10-22-2009, 05:36 PM   #82
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4.56 by Sierra Gear. Yes, they are the cheaper kind but I don't think I'm going to have to worry about it. My front is the same company and its quiet and never had a problem yet.

http://www.sierragear.com/
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Unread 10-22-2009, 11:00 PM   #83
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cool dude, thanks!
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Unread 10-27-2009, 01:41 PM   #84
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SNAP. Update time.

I tried to set up the gears yesterday, but got pissed and stopped when I noticed some metal filings had gotten into the gearset and were doing wierd things with the pattern and stuff. Got it all cleaned out, put it all back together with the old shim pack under the pinion support, cranked in the adjusters till I felt like I had a good backlash (comparing to what I remember from the D44), then did a little more to preload a bit. I don't know how to measure or check preload on the 9", so as of right now its just "a little more" on the adjusters once the backlash is set haha.

I like this so I'm about to head over to my brother in laws to first check the backlash, then use his press and race seaters to put my new bearings on the pinion.

My spanner wrench for the adjusters


The pattern I got, contact patch looks massive:


The other side
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Unread 10-27-2009, 03:20 PM   #85
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can you school me on backlash and how your picture is impressive? i'm gonna get my gears done soon by a shop and i at least want to understand what the heck they will be talking about.
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Unread 10-27-2009, 03:30 PM   #86
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can you school me on backlash and how your picture is impressive? i'm gonna get my gears done soon by a shop and i at least want to understand what the heck they will be talking about.
dude you need to go read a book or something. backlash is the play between the pinion and the ring gear. there are certain specs that differ between axles and are measured usually with a dial indicator in .000" thats the jist of it. there is alot more to setting up gears. which is prob why you are paying someone a few hundred bucks to do it . i read randys book like 2987 times then took my time and did mine myself as a local shop wanted like 350 per axle...
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Unread 10-27-2009, 03:36 PM   #87
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Can't wait to see it under there. Going to be sick.

P.S. - I'm still waiting for my aussie locker to show up in the mail.
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Unread 10-27-2009, 07:23 PM   #88
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Haha your aussie ships out when I win the lottery .

Phantom, definately do some reading there are a few tools you have to have to complete a regear and the tolerances on everything are VERY tight. Not impossible for the home mechanic by any means, but experience is nice.

So I got new pinion bearings and races for peace of mind, assembled the pinion and took it to west coast diffs to torque the pinion nut down to crush the crush sleeve and set the pinion preload, came out with around 11 in. lbs which is decent for new bearings. After that I got everything set up again, did a few more patterns with a few variations and got to a pattern I'm happy with. I'm thinking this will be my final pattern as everything is torqued to spec and the drive side is perfect.

Coast:


Drive:
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Unread 10-27-2009, 07:42 PM   #89
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hell yea dude. good pattern
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[CENTER]94 Grand Cherokee Laredo ZJ, lifted, 37s, yada yada yada
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[COLOR="RoyalBlue"][B]BigBlue build 3/4 ton axles, LAs, 37s [/COLOR][/B]
[B][U][url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=818891[/url] [/U][/B]

99 Grand Cherokee Laredo WJ, 4.7 liter, 247 Quadra Trac II, fully loaded

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Unread 10-27-2009, 08:21 PM   #90
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OK, I'm not gonna lie... I'm jealous. I just read the entire build thus far and must say, that is quite impressive fab skills. good to see someone actually beating a dubya like they should be. It is afterall a JEEP
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