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Unread 11-10-2010, 06:57 PM   #136
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I weld quite a bit at work and I have never seemed to max out the cycle. I start to go cross eyed after a little bit.

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Unread 11-10-2010, 10:20 PM   #137
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I tend to burn through my gloves before my lincoln gets to its max.
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Unread 11-11-2010, 08:27 AM   #138
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Yeah pretty much! When I have it cranked my gloves can get aweful hot...and I have thick stick welding gloves not mig gloves. Though I will say an old welding technique led to a fried finger on these gloves hahaha
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Unread 11-11-2010, 08:39 AM   #139
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You not wearing leathers for welding? A tack here and there and I'll use mechanic gloves, but if I am doing more then that, ouch!
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Unread 11-11-2010, 08:53 AM   #140
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Well I wear leather gloves, but no jacket :P. I used to use mechanix too, but they were too easy to melt a hole through with slag balls haha!
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Unread 11-11-2010, 04:27 PM   #141
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I got a few pics, the truss is going together great right now! I actually have the top layer on now, but no pics. Letting everything cool down a little bit, theres a LOT of weld to put that truss together!

Inner layer


Sorry for the sideways pic, but it shows: I welded the tubes, put the truss on, welded the outside of the truss leg then welded the inside to cast. It is SOLID.


It looks a little wierd, but here's the top of the diff. It's definately solid, the hammer marks and little slag bits just take away from it!





More to come later once it's all welded!
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Unread 11-11-2010, 04:44 PM   #142
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thats nice to have to crossmember. i looked for it on the tnt site, but couldnt find it.
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Unread 11-11-2010, 05:46 PM   #143
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Hmmm well it's the kit they offer for ZJ's, one crossmember for the front links and tcase, one crossmember out back for the rear links and to act as a skidplate mount!

It's not going anywhere...hahaha



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Unread 11-11-2010, 07:17 PM   #144
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Welds look really good.
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Unread 11-11-2010, 08:49 PM   #145
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Lots of welds...how long did it take you? Still hot?
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You not wearing leathers for welding? A tack here and there and I'll use mechanic gloves, but if I am doing more then that, ouch!
I've got a denim welding coat for the easy stuff and a 12lb leather bike jacket for overhead. I burn through welding gloves every once in a while. Makes a nice color burn.
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Lots of welds...how long did it take you? Still hot?
It's going to be hot till sunday.
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Unread 11-11-2010, 10:36 PM   #147
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I put like 3-4 hours of welding into it, including preheating/postheating the cast and all that! It stayed pretty hot because of the cast heating, but I tried to space the truss welding with some intervals to spread the heating, still pretty dang warm for hours!
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Unread 11-12-2010, 04:58 PM   #148
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I did the lower control arm mounts and a little more cast welding today. Coil buckets will probably wait till I get it under the jeep and find the best rotation vs. pinion angle. Next things on the list right now are swapping in the 241 tcase and installing the rear crossmember so I can actually hang the 14 bolt!



I have to say...this weld felt GOOOOOOD.


Spot for table? Hmmm hahaha
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Unread 11-17-2010, 06:53 PM   #149
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Well, I pressed that ****ing 241 up into position 5 times today. First couple times the tranny was too high in the tunnel and I couldnt get it on, the other times were vice versa AGH. Haha. Aaaanyways, I finally got it and bolted the skid and rear crossmember up! This is just for measuring, then it comes back down to get the welded inserts put in, then the 44a comes out and i'll probably do a complete mock install, then the 14 bolt comes back out for the shave!



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Unread 11-19-2010, 06:33 PM   #150
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Well I talked to TnT today about the weld in inserts for the rear, and found out this is actually a pre-production kit haha! They haven't officially released these yet, but are expecting to in the next couples months so this is a treat for you guys! I will say that I personally think the double triangulated rear is the best setup on the market! Can't wait to really drive it and test it out.

I bolted everything together today to get the location of the holes I need for the weld in threaded inserts for hte rear crossmember. My call to TnT was to talk about this: If your doing it on just a frame rail you drill a 3/4" hole and the threaded insert's little step sits on the surface, but if you have the stiffeners also you want to drill the frame rail to 3/4" but the stiffener to 1" to sink the entire threaded insert into the stiffener for a flush mount.

(Yes, one of them landed in a hole I cut. I'm not too worried about it, I can still get a good amount of weld to the 1/4" plate and these were designed to be used with the stock frame rail anywhoo!)

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