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post #511 of 526 Old 05-05-2014, 10:57 PM
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its comments like this that make me wonder why some people are jerks.

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post #512 of 526 Old 05-05-2014, 11:01 PM
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How bout $3.50
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Good luck with sale...i followed this build from the start. Just curious why are you selling??

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Andy and I have been working on a deal, and it looks like I might end up owning this thing

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post #515 of 526 Old 05-08-2014, 02:30 AM
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Haha nah I'm trading Andy my stock black WJ towards the value of this thing. So trading one out for another isn't bad right? Lol

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Greg you suck! I so wanted this jeep

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post #518 of 526 Old 12-05-2014, 10:09 AM
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Design of dana 60 for front and ford axle for rear

Hi Andy (and everybody),

I am new to this forum, so thanks for letting me join to ask a question or two, if you have the time.

I have a 5.9 Grand Cherokee and am excited about making it an offroader such as the one that you (Andy) have built up. My compliments on your efforts to design and build your 5.9, as it is one of the nicest designs I have seen.

Which brings me to the question about your axles - do you have a Dana60 on the front and a Ford axle on the rear? If so, could you advise what basic steps you had to take to make that work? Are you running 6 lugs on your wheels?

Thanks!
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. . .Which brings me to the question about your axles - do you have a Dana60 on the front and a Ford axle on the rear? If so, could you advise what basic steps you had to take to make that work? Are you running 6 lugs on your wheels?

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^- that. And plenty more info over on the Pirate4x4 forum.

Then again, if one has to ask that kind of questions, 1-ton full-width axle swap isn't in your agenda very soon.

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post #521 of 526 Old 12-15-2014, 02:59 PM
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You guys may be many things, but helpful is not one of them. One takes 10 seconds to tell me to spend the next 2 weeks reading 10 years of threads. The other disparages my abilities without knowing one damned thing about me.

Really you two, stick it. Okay?
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You guys may be many things, but helpful is not one of them. One takes 10 seconds to tell me to spend the next 2 weeks reading 10 years of threads.

You know, the OP of this thread doesn't spend too much time on this forum at all - looking at the last time he was active was about half a year ago.
Second, the guy who mostly built this with Andy, is also a LOT more active over on Pirate with his own builds - not here.
Third, if someone is asking questions on how does one make 1-tons work on a unibody vehicle, the person asking that question is definitely not familiar enough with the kind of project he/ she is possibly thinking of doing. Some effort (=read, research, study, learn ) is needed.
Fourth, this board really doesn't have too many guys - especially on the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee sections - who have actually done 1-ton or 3/4- ton swaps on their Jeeps, or that much of serious fab work anyways. If they have, most builds are posted on other message boards.


I suggested you visiting Pirate4x4 Cherokee- section (which includes XJ/MJ/ZJ/WJ), because most swaps done there are 3/4- ton and 1- tons. There are also excellent TOTMs (topic of the month), which answer ALL of your questions and a whole lot more - if you just read and do your research. The guys over there can be dickheads, but they know their stuff.
You don't even need to ask them anything, just read through the pages, google the TOTMs, go through the multitude of info available on that site. A lot of people who post there are competing in different off-road races across the USA.


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The other disparages my abilities without knowing one damned thing about me.
I was not disparaging your abilities, I was being realistic. If you knew what all needs to be done to make 1-tons work on a unibody Jeep, you wouldn't be asking such basic questions on this forum, would you?
You may very well be capable of welding a battle ship from scratch, but it doesn't mean you can do a 1-ton swap that works properly. Not without research and studying, that is.


People here - including me - are more than willing to provide new guys with plenty of info. But don't expect people to teach you how to build a Jeep, if you don't show those people you're willing to do some of the work in the learning experience yourself.

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I'm not trying to tick anybody off, but seriously, read if you want info. Not everything willing be spoon fed to you. If you're thinking about building something on tons, you're going to do a lot of reading. And don't be that guy that is an Internet *******. Nobody likes it, and that is an easy way to get banned really quick.

Butttttt..... the front axle is a hp60 and the rear is a 14 bolt. 8 lug. Last time I saw it, it was on recentered h1s and 37 inch mtrs.

Basic steps to make it work, custom links, brackets and trusses. There is nothing basic about doing a one ton swap.

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You guys may be many things, but helpful is not one of them. One takes 10 seconds to tell me to spend the next 2 weeks reading 10 years of threads. The other disparages my abilities without knowing one damned thing about me.

Really you two, stick it. Okay?
Gosh man great third post!

The OP has not been on here actively for a long time. That said all the info you need is in the tread, literally it tells you what to do. I have been following this tread along time due to wanting to build a 5.9 one day for specifically mudding with 1 tons and 40s to go along with my XJ which is used more for the trails and rocks (if ya can find any rocks in FL). This thread isn't specifically for building a mud jeep but the axle swap info is there for me to use. Now if you have a specific question during the swap or something you have read up on but can't figure out, you can post in the tech section. Most will help you out. You can post whatever you want really but you will find the most use from this forum reading from the guys that know what there talking about, then asking specific questions. I have been on here awhile now and don't have many posts but have learned a ton about my last WJ, my XJ, and a future 5.9 I will be building just from reading. Enjoy the forum. Also, telling people to "stick it" will get you nothing but rude responses as well and is frankly childish. Go on pirate for that crap.
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Well at least you didn't come back asking me where my children go to school, that's something.

I am trying to do PRIOR research and capture the design in Visio, rather than showing up at the shop and asking someone to work it out any way they like. In other words, I was looking for the pitfalls to avoid and some idea of what fits together nicely from past experience, a simple 2 minute time-saving money-saving few tips. In my profession, I do this for anyone who asks because I know how much time can be wasted chasing down subtle but important details (which are sometimes NEVER found until the mistakes have been made).

So I will get outa here and try your pirate for "that crap". Out of curiosity about this thread here: if it is not for "crap", then what value do you think it provides anyone other than as a social hangout? I am not seeing any metallurgy, materials, physics, differential equations experts here, so I guess the higher calling of this thread was not obvious from a first glance.

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