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post #586 of 845 Old 07-07-2013, 03:23 PM Thread Starter
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If you can get ahold of some spares it might be worth your time. Otherwise take it easy with the locker engaged and don't hammer the throttle with the tire bound up.

I intentionally gave mine hell to see what would go first. I expected the stock hubs, not the stub shaft.


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post #587 of 845 Old 07-08-2013, 06:18 AM
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A friend is running an HP44 with 37's and this last trip out to moab blew up two hubs and one axle shaft. RCV's are so expensive that you're so close to a D60 up front you might as well

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Yeah.. That was the debate I was having too, but I've got a bunch in this axle already and I don't expect I'm going to start grenading the R&P anytime soon, which is what I'd be upgrading if I went to a 60 over new shafts (since the RCV increases the outer stub size). The 44 I'm working with has the larger 3" x 1/2" thick tubes and I've trussed it out so I don't think the housing itself is going to be an issue.

Plus with brackets, gears, knuckles for high steer, etc its going to be significantly more than double the cost to swap housings.

I should have, in retrospect, probably started with a 60. I'd be into it roughly the same amount in the end. Take heed future builders of 37"+

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Oh and I forgot to post this earlier. Here's how I did the limiting strap brackets up front:




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I should have, in retrospect, probably started with a 60. I'd be into it roughly the same amount in the end. Take heed future builders of 37"+
Thats scaring me. Im not into my 44 for anything yet aside from a diff cover. The brackets havent been welded on yet, and could be ground out to fit the larger axle tube. Im starting to worry. The only reason I think mine will last longer is the fact that I have the underpowered 4.0L, but I plan to run 5.13's or 5.38 gears to make up for it, so I dunno. Maybe Ill just do that jana 54 conversion and run rcv shafts like you plan.
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Just get two or more sets of RCVs depending on how much you expect to break them. They're fully covered no matter what and will get replaced for free. So it's not like you're constantly putting money into the axles. But if you go with a 60 instead of rcv, now you're looking at new r&p, axles, truss, hubs, brakes(?), and all the work to do so.
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Even with a 60 you would have to upgrade to 35spline and possibly chromoly. When I first took my truck out after the 42s I got a tire wedged in a rock and exploded both hubs and stripped a stub shaft on my d60. But that was before I upgraded to 35 spline chromoly stub shafts. I have a buddy who runs a 44 with chromos and 38s on a heavy ford expedition, but mostly only snow. 44. You'll be fine.

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Just get two or more sets of RCVs depending on how much you expect to break them. They're fully covered no matter what and will be replaced for free. So it's not like you're constantly putting money into the axles. But if you go with a 60 instead of rcv, now you're looking at new r&p, axles, truss, hubs, brakes(?), and all the work to do so.
You must be made of cash.

Those things are expensive. I'm buying one set and carrying spare shafts with chromo stubs as a backup to get me to the trailer if i NEED 4wd to get there.

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x2, inspiring build speed Dillon, I'm jealous! I went away for a week and you're done!

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I'm already thinking of selling mine and going with a 60. Or 609.

I could get a good return on it, but I really regret not going big the first time. At the time, I was short on cash and wanted to be fill width.

But with the electric locker in there, I can't turn at all when it is engaged. Idk how you can turn OK with your 37s. I struggle turning mine with the front open when I'm stopped.

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I'm already thinking of selling mine and going with a 60. Or 609.

I could get a good return on it, but I really regret not going big the first time. At the time, I was short on cash and wanted to be fill width.

But with the electric locker in there, I can't turn at all when it is engaged. Idk how you can turn OK with your 37s. I struggle turning mine with the front open when I'm stopped.
Got me, mine turn great, no better or worse than my pickup.

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RCVs are on the way, got my tracking number today. I'll install by this weekend hopefully but it depends on work, I'm stuck in Amarillo tonight..

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x2, inspiring build speed Dillon, I'm jealous! I went away for a week and you're done!
Thanks, appreciate the support from the YJ bros!

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Well, haven't had much time for the Jeep lately as we started flying again.

My RCVs came in as did my spare 19 spline 4340 stubs to run as backups.

Ive delayed install of the RCVs as the spindles I'm using need to be machined to open up the ID a little so the larger shafts can be used. I decided to order new spindles and have those machined instead of putting money into the old spindles.

In the mean time, I put the spares (4340 stubs/factory 44 inners/spicer joints)in to run until I get around to getting all that done.

Here are some pics of the shafts:

You can see the stock stub broke where they neck down after the splines. From left to right: stock stub, chromo stub, RCV.



You can see how the RCVs don't neck down at all, plus they are a little larger diameter shaft.

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