Is the dealer really going to relocate my gas tank for me, making sure to avoid interference with my armor, lift and aftermarket rear bumper? Or should I be forced to give up a $11,000 vehicle for zero compensation?
Concerning the Mustang, the issue is not so much that the tank is located behind the rear axle but more about being located there ...combined with the height of the tank in proportion to the likely lower vehicle or same height that hits it.
More to the point, in a rear colision, if the tank suffers a direct hit as in the case of a lower vehicle and a WJ, the tank is not surrounded by structure that will offset the impact and deflect damage away from the tank.
A reasonable solution is not obvious to NHTSA nor reasonable for Chrysler to implement. The WJ met the standard at the time and though the standard was set low in comparison to now, it was the standard.
Do you ignore the past and future deaths/injuries or do something? That's the question that court will decide I guess.
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I think the stat was that there is a death that is directly attributed to a fire caused by a rear impact to a ZJ or WJ once for every million yesrs they have been on the road. Perfectly acceptable imo, otherwise you have to go back and apply current standards to other manufacturers as well.
This has been popping up every month or so for the 5 years Ive been a member of this forum. Its something thats been around for almost a decade. Chrysler has already released their "fix" with a big slice of steel on the drivers side of the tank.
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Your worried. Something like 3.5M vehicles and 51 incidents. Thats .0014572%. You will probably get struck by lightening 10 times or win the the powerball and lotto in the same week before this would affect you.
Seriously? How did they miss every XJ ever made having the gas tank behind the axle? Or is it high enough to be protected?
It is likely the leaf springs and rear shackle mounts which are right in front of the rear bumper (and behind/under the tank) that protect the tank on the XJ vs. the control arms and coils on the ZJ/WJ which do not extend behind the axle providing no protection when struck by a "low-nosed" vehicle.
That being said it still isn't the issue that the NHTSA is making it out to be, the ZJ, WJ, and KJ all met the safety standards when they were built and The NHTSA is trying to apply current standards to 10-20 year old vehicles which is ridiculous and likely illegal (this would be an example of an ex-post-facto law which the constitution specifically prohibits, not that the current administration cares about that pesky thing). What's next recall every vehicle made before air-bags, anti-lock brakes, stability control, seat belts, etc. ?
And as gcjeeping said the odds are so low it isn't even worth worrying about and the rate of fires on ZJ/WJ/KJs isn't significantly higher than other vehicles from the same time period.
According to the data included in Chrysler's response to this, I am safer in an '84 Dodge Aries than I am in my WJ. That's inspiring and doesn't at all cause me to raise an eyebrow. I've never really been a fan of burning to death though. No matter how low the odds might be, I always like to go lower on something like that.
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I was rear ended at 40+ mph in A 97 ZJ that already had rear end damage. The gas tank was jammed in to the rear axle leaving an imprint in the front of the tank and locking the rear axle in place. The entire body was bent leaving the top rear corners of the rear doors sticking up and out. For a full month not a drop of fuel came out of a full tank.
So if I wanted to buy the part that is the suggested fix by the NHTSA what part would that be? Would a frame mounted class III trailer hitch (not a factory one, one that hangs down a bit) protect the tank?
I had a 1965 and 1969 Mustang, both with "drop-in" gas tanks and now a 2001 Jeep GC. (No Pinto however). Am I pushing my luck?
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