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post #1 of 55 Old 06-08-2014, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
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working on regearing a few questions.

Ok dana 35. Had noise from rear end and I was planning on regearing any way so I got gears and master rebuild kits for front and rear.

Here is what I have on the d35.

Started taking her apart and the carrier about fell out in my lap.

All that was there for shims were two big shims a .155 on the left and .176 on the right.

pinion had .050 of end play. I pulled and push on the yoke and it would move .05

The pinion gear had a .045 shim on it.

So I have a new open carrier with aussie locker and bolted up my ring gear.
Put the shims all back where they came from when I took her apart but with new ring and pinion gears.

I have no back lash.

Do I start with thinner shim on pinion and work on back lash first then go after pinion depth.

There was a receipt for rear end work in the jeep and the rear diff was obviously not put back together correctly.

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post #2 of 55 Old 06-09-2014, 07:07 AM
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Fill in your profile. General rule, don't spend a dime on a D35. Do you plan locked? What size tires are there now and in your future? What sort of wheeling do you plan?

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Doing it like my last one. Expedition / long camping trip vehicle not a rock crawler. Moderate off road use. Locked front and rear with 31's maybe 33's . All my stuff came with the jeep when I bought it or I traded items for them.

Made some head way last night. Hopefully I can get some patterns tonoght and post them up.
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Last duty station was there in Albuquerque. I wonder how much it has changed since I was there. Use to mountain bike , ride motor cross and camp all around there.
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Well well. I can tell you the master rebuild kits I got for the front and rear diffs is very incomplete. There are no were near enough shims to get my back lash correct. I am sitting at .01 back lash and nothing I can do with a hand full of .03 and .02 shims.

So I tried a local drive train shop and they had shims but the od was to big on all of them.

I made a call to randys ring and pinion and ordered there super duper shabang shim master blaster kits for the front and rear. They said there was enough shims to do a complete new set up. They will be here monday.

So I pulled my transfer case to get ready for the sye install. And put my new track bar mount on. Got my jcr front frame tie in and steering box spacer prepped and ready to spray.

See what I get done tomorrow.
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Man im feeling lonely in here.

Jcr front frame tie in and steering brackets painted and installed.

Sye done and transfer case is ready to go back in. Who ever said the bolts were easy to get to with a stubby or extensions and a ratchet must have little kid arms. I had to drop my exhaust to get to the passenger side nuts.

Have to finish a little welding on my frame stiffeners and seal them up and paint them then I can get the cross member on and done. Then mount up the long arms.
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You may have had enough shims, you need a certain amount of preload on the carrier, without it you stand a very good chance of losing the ring.

When the carrier fell out it was because the bearings were wasted and lost all preload, if you have a inch pound meter you want nearly 30/50 inch pounds on the carrier, to little and you can break the ring gear when the bearings loosen up and they will loosen up.

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Yeah I see what your saying. But no way I figured it could I get what I needed. I have a master shim of .155 on ring gear side and .175 on pinion. I am at.010 back lash. I have 4 .03 shims 4 .025 shims and 4 .02 shims.

So lets say that by moving .02 towards the pinion would get me .006 back lash. Well I could put .02 on the gear side to push it towards the pinion but I have no way to pull from my pinion side. So unless im wrong and I could be.

I would need to add .02 on the ring side and remove .02 on the pinion gear side to get my .006 back lash. Now these are all just numbers im throwing out just for example.

If im thinking about it all wrong just slap me now.
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post #9 of 55 Old 06-21-2014, 07:42 AM Thread Starter
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Coast side



Drive side



What do you think?

Oh yeah back lash is .006

Thanks in advance
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Pin isn't right, needs more shim

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Deeper you think?
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Yes, and thats not a speculation or a guess, add more shim

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post #13 of 55 Old 06-21-2014, 02:59 PM Thread Starter
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Lol. Wasnt saying it was. I added another .01 to the pinion depth so ill take a pattern after I take the wifr and kids swimming.

What are you seeing to tell u to add more shim? Is it becasuse its not centered between heel and toe? Or root and topland?


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Root and top

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Made a cpl of changes to pinion depth. Back lash set back to .006



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