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Welding Vs Spool...

Ok so Im starting to order parts for my HP44. Im going to permanently lock it since I'll have the locking hubs. My question is since I'll have to buy a new carrier to run 4.88s would it be better to just buy a new carrier and weld my gears or just to buy a spool and call it a day. I'm trying to do this the cheapest way possible but don't mind spending a little extra if it is really all that worth it. Let me know what y'all think.


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post #2 of 11 Old 02-03-2014, 02:30 PM
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Buy a mini spool. That way you can remove it if you don't like it.

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Well a mini spool kind of defeats the whole issue.. Cause i'll still need a new carrier and if i buy a new carrier i'll just weld the spiders.

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I just did one this weekend. Shoulda bought the mini spool. He hated it




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You'll set up gears once and if you want the spiders back in for any reason you can choose that option. I understand you can unlock the hubs and it'll be open but the mini will be a lot stronger.

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I understand that. I really don't care about taking it back out. Thing is at the price of a new carrier and mini spool i can just buy a full spool.

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Full spool is going to be stronger. Go with that.

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I understand that. I really don't care about taking it back out. Thing is at the price of a new carrier and mini spool i can just buy a full spool.
You don't care now, but if you don't like it or the LL causes the vehicle to be unsellable, your out a lot of extra money.

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Well a mini spool kind of defeats the whole issue.. Cause i'll still need a new carrier and if i buy a new carrier i'll just weld the spiders.
Mini spools are plenty strong, especially in a 35. They are cheap and easy to remove. If your dead set on a cheap lock up in the front i believe you will be money ahead going this route.
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Im welded front and rear on 60's both steering. With that said I like the weld but I knew what and how it would handle in my rig as I drove a buddys rig with the same package.
You do get alot of plow steer and it does make the power steering run hotter, so add a cooler and expect to make more turns to get around.

But going back to the topic weld VS spool, well a mini spool is pretty cheap but if you have a welder thats cheaper.
If you do weld it just weld the spiders to the side gears, this way if your not happy with it you can cut them out and place another set in, it will suck but can be done, yes I have done that

If you decide you like the welded carrier, then do like I do and add some extra steel to connect the two side gears together, turn that carrier into a nugget of iron and it will last for years.

Oh and phase your U-joints, you got to remember you made a drive shaft out of those two axle shafts, regardless if you have locking hubs or not, those will only unlock the wheel hub but the driver and pass shafts are in one plane/phase.
So if the two sides are not in phase then they bind, its like night and day if you dont phase them, trust me I found that out the hard way to.

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Im welded front and rear on 60's both steering. With that said I like the weld but I knew what and how it would handle in my rig as I drove a buddys rig with the same package. You do get alot of plow steer and it does make the power steering run hotter, so add a cooler and expect to make more turns to get around. But going back to the topic weld VS spool, well a mini spool is pretty cheap but if you have a welder thats cheaper. If you do weld it just weld the spiders to the side gears, this way if your not happy with it you can cut them out and place another set in, it will suck but can be done, yes I have done that If you decide you like the welded carrier, then do like I do and add some extra steel to connect the two side gears together, turn that carrier into a nugget of iron and it will last for years. Oh and phase your U-joints, you got to remember you made a drive shaft out of those two axle shafts, regardless if you have locking hubs or not, those will only unlock the wheel hub but the driver and pass shafts are in one plane/phase. So if the two sides are not in phase then they bind, its like night and day if you dont phase them, trust me I found that out the hard way to. Jason.
Thanks Jason that's the kind of advice I would looking for!!

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