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Unread 05-04-2014, 04:13 PM   #1
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TPS low voltage

Hey guys I'm looking for some help, I tested my tps and I'm getting a reading of WOT at 3.80 at the most when the tps is bolted to the throttle body...now if I take off the tps and test with a flat head I can get WOT results I want 4.6 4.8 etc

Any ideas ??

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Unread 05-05-2014, 04:07 AM   #2
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I assume you're testing it by turning it all the way to the max when it's off the throttle body. If so, that's fine. The throttle body is not going to turn the tps to max. It's designed to turn a little bit farther than the throttle to help prevent damage, as well as give a proper reading.
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Unread 05-05-2014, 08:31 AM   #3
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Hey guys I'm looking for some help, I tested my tps and I'm getting a reading of WOT at 3.80 at the most when the tps is bolted to the throttle body...now if I take off the tps and test with a flat head I can get WOT results I want 4.6 4.8 etc

Any ideas ??
Yeah. What year and what are you trying to accomplish?

If it's an 87, and I'm guessing here because of your name, here's how you adjust it:



RENIX TPS ADJUSTMENT

Before attempting to adjust your TPS, there are two things that need to be done.

1) Be sure the throttle body has been recently cleaned. It's especially important that the edges of the throttle butterfly are free of any carbon build-up.

2) With the Key OFF, and using the positive (red) lead of your ohmmeter, set on the lowest scale, probe the B terminal of the flat 3 wire connector of the TPS. The letters are embossed on the connector itself. Touch the black lead of your meter to the negative battery post. Wiggle the wiring harness where it parallels the valve cover and also over near the MAP sensor on the firewall. If you see more than 1 ohm of resistance, or fluctuation in your ohms reading, some modifications to the sensor ground harness will be necessary. The harness repair must be performed before proceeding. I can provide an instruction sheet for that if needed.

TPS ADJUSTMENT FOR ENGINE ISSUES

Both RENIX manual and automatic transmission equipped XJs and MJs have a flat three-wire connector to the TPS which provides data input to the ECU. The three wires in the connector are clearly embossed with the letters A, B, and C. Wire "A" is positive. Wire "B" is ground. DO NOT UNPLUG THE CONNECTORS !! Key ON, measure voltage from "A" positive to "B" ground by back-probing the connectors. Note the voltage reading--this is your REFERENCE voltage. Key ON, back-probe the connector at wires "B" and "C". Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT voltage. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be seventeen percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For example: 4.82 volts X .17=.82 volts. Loosen both T-20 Torx screws attaching the TPS to the throttle body and rotate the TPS until you
have achieved your desired output voltage. Tighten the screws carefully while watching to see that your output voltage remains where it is supposed to be. If you can't achieve the correct output voltage, replace the TPS and start over.

Sometimes, after adjusting your TPS the way outlined above, you may experience a high idle upon starting. If that happens, shut the engine off and reconnect your probes to B and C. Start the engine and while watching your meter, turn the TPS clockwise until the idle drops to normal and then rotate it back counterclockwise to your desired output voltage.

TPS ADJUSTMENT FOR AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ISSUES

RENIX automatic transmission equipped XJs and MJs have a TPS with two connectors. There is a flat three-wire connector, same as the manual transmission vehicles have, and it is tested the same as outlined above—FOR ALL ENGINE MANAGEMENT RELATED ISSUES.

However, the automatic TPS also has a square four-wire connector, clearly embossed with the letters A,B,C, and D. It only uses three wires and provides information to the Transmission Control Module. THIS SQUARE FOUR WIRE CONNECTOR IS USED FOR TRANSMISSION/SHIFTING RELATED ISSUES ONLY. First off, DO NOT UNPLUG THE CONNECTORS !! Key ON, measure voltage between "A" positive and "D" ground by back-probing the connector. Note the voltage. This is your REFERENCE voltage. Back-probe the connector at wires "B" and "D". Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT voltage. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be eighty-three percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For example 4.8 volts X .83=3.98 volts. Adjust the TPS until you have achieved this percentage. If you can't, replace the TPS and start over. So, if you have an automatic equipped XJ your TPS has two sides--one side feeds the ECU, and the other side feeds the TCU.

For those with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION--the TPS for the manual transmission XJs is stupid expensive. You can substitute the automatic transmission TPS which is reasonably priced. The square 4 wire connector is just not used.
Revised 12-15-2013
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Unread 05-05-2014, 10:44 AM   #4
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thanks for the replies, sorry 87 is my birth year, my jeep is a 95, even with the tps screwed on the max reading im getting is 3.79, i know that is well under what is should be...am i correct ??
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thanks for the replies, sorry 87 is my birth year, my jeep is a 95, even with the tps screwed on the max reading im getting is 3.79, i know that is well under what is should be...am i correct ??
I'm the Renix guy.
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Unread 05-13-2014, 05:35 PM   #6
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TPs

I had low voltage on my 03' tj and it caused it to be almost undriveable at times, replaced the TPS 4 times and each time it worked for a little bit and then it would fail. I ended up replacing the plug that and putting a TPS from NAPA instead of auto zone on her and it works fine now. the good news is that the TPS is easy to swap out and not very expensive. The plug I got from the jeep stealership was only like 18bucks too, just very frustrating. now i keep an extra one in my glove box just in case.
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