Top Speed? governor Removal! - Page 4

97xjsport · 10-23-2002, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by White-Knight

Speaking of stupid people suing others - what's up with that lady winning a case against the tobacco companies because she 'didn't think cigarettes would give her cancer'? How silly is that? Where do they get these juries from? Seriously, on the side of every pack of cigarettes it basically says 'this will kill you'. Plus I read that her doctor told her for years to quit smoking.

Go over seas no joke it dies say this product can kill you right on the front of the box and in big letters, not the fine print crap.

rollinashortysahara · 10-23-2002, 03:30 PM

lots of stuff for me to say...
most european cars as well as lexus and infinity put "h" rated tires which really aren't made to go that fast. and although people may not want to hear it but the government has alot to do with govenors ... you think chevy really wanted the skip shift in the 6 speed camaros trans ams and vettes ( makes you go from 1st to 4th if you accelerate to redline ) NO! same with european cars and govenors ...they have the autobahns with no speed limit but they give out reckless driving tickets etc. for weaving in and out of traffic too fast. any way you look at it its not always tha auto maker's choice. its for insurance reasons and lawsuits. and sometimes its aerodynamics in the case of the '03 mustang governed down because it creats enough lift ti pick the car up a little at 175. there are many reasons. but a cherokee ... i think it may not be the best to go much faster than 100 the square front shows you how much jeep worried about aerodynamics... now the grand cherokee... go for it i have a friend with one i put a chip in, fipk, and exhaust as well as a 2" lift and 265/75 r16 tires on ( near 32") and she's real stable at 115 and turns ok too, i still wouldn't do it on back roads but the interestate hell yeah

**Whybu1** · 10-23-2002, 04:15 PM

Am I the only one concerned with how long it will take a SUV traveling 125+ to stop with stock brakes?

Really doubt the stock disks will handle it.

And by the way, the Autobahn has areas without speedlimits (although they can indeed get you for travelling at an "unsafe" speed) but many parts are limited to 120Km/H. Saw many crashes over there, lots of tow-trucks; very few ambulances.

When they do crash, folks die.

Ever try to figure out how far you travel on the road at 100+ in the 1/4 + second reaction time most people have? Its 586 ft! In other words, at that speed anything that steps, walks or pulls out in front of you less than 1/10 of a mile away, you cannot avoid! Just some food for thought.

rollinashortysahara · 10-23-2002, 10:13 PM

yeah i'm not really taking sides and i swear the autobahn is actually a bunch of roads i think it pretty much translated to highway. personally i think its dumb to drive that fast but occasionally i feel like being dumb. like every car i have had my hands on i've driven 100 + once and only once. it is fun but i do it in the middle of the night on an interstate. still not smart but it is a little safer.

**Whybu1** · 10-24-2002, 09:15 AM

rollinashortysahara,
FYI you are correct: Autobahn = German Interstate System

Some places 2 lanes each direction some places up to 8 each way! Better quality than most of our roads. Wouldn't dream of taking my TJ out of the slowlane there! These big BMWs and Mercedes do cruise along at upwards of 140mph.

4wheeler4CJ · 10-24-2002, 12:00 PM

Everyone see how much more informative and friendly a debate can be when people like "rbbladers" are given the hook?

Honestly, I am very pleased with how this thread has progressed/changed into an informative one! Heck, I'll admit I have learned a few things just sitting on the sidelines reading!

Just an example of how great most people are on this forum!

94gclimited · 10-24-2002, 03:27 PM

Whybu1,

The stock brakes are better than alot of the other domestic mid size SUV's. The GC's can stop as fast as alot of the larger family cars including the Police Interceptor Crown Vics (thats not saying alot but those Crown Vics can stop pretty well considering their size) so I'm pretty sure they can handle it. How much fade would there be, probably a moderate amount, but my friend's 97 30th anniversay Z28 has experienced a little fade when stopping pretty fast from even 110.
Jason

91XJLimited · 10-24-2002, 04:37 PM

In my opinion, the governor should be LEFT ALONE. It gives plenty of room if you are really in an emergency situation to do a quicker than legal speed. At any other time, it shouldn't be done. Some say, "Well I was on the highway going to this certain place." WHO CARES?!?! I have yet to see a sign that says "70 MPH unless your on a long trip". And the last I looked, there were no Z rated tires above 30", and those were with 18" rims. The vehicles that were made to go that fast, are strengthened, tested, retested, etc. No car, unless specifically for race, and at a specific spot TO race, should be allowed to drive without a governor. I'm not saying I don't drive fast, I've also had my Jeep pegged, but that doesn't mean what I did wasn't stupid. If you want your Jeep to do 100+ mph, then make it a RACE JEEP (which i have no clue why you would want to, aerodynamics suck on them), and actually strengthen the necessary parts to do so. Otherwise, don't touch the governor. Not only does it not allow you to go fast, but without a governor, you CAN blow a motor. A governor not only stops your speed, but disables your motor from going to higher rpm's, without another gear to hit. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to find out what happens next. Flame me if you'd like, but may God have mercy on your soul if you kill yourself, and more importantly if your that stupid, whoever else is in your path.

rollinashortysahara · 10-24-2002, 05:22 PM

haha they might make z rated tires for those 24"s they have out now hahahah ! dude i need some dubs for my jeep. hahahha
the only way my wheels would get over 16.5" is going to 20"s so i can have rockwell axles and they would have 40" + size tires on them. but back to the govenor issue. yeah in most cases they are good. with the blow up your motor thing... i think you'd have to have a cherokee going 150+ to get it any where near redline and with those aero dynamics i just don't think thats possible.
but you also have to consider going 100+ is situational you can't just say your gonna die cause frankly i'd be more likly to die being shot at than by wrecking the car. 100 mph on a 5 lane interstate when you can't even see another car is quite safe and if it wasn't vibration comes before wrecking and if your smart you'll stop when your car feels like its going to fall apart. other than that i don't know what could have wrecked it short of well i can't think of anything. but in traffic of any kind i can say i'd flip you the bird if you drove by at over 90 even if i was the only car out there.

4wheeler4CJ · 10-25-2002, 08:42 AM

As far as "emergency situations" go, all rescues and fire engines have governors on them much lower than even 100, probably not over 65/70 or so. That is because you can easily turn an "emergency situation" into a tragedy or catastrophe when your adrenaline rush makes you do stupid things without thinking or even seeing what you are doing.

You can take that to the bank.

Ever see a rescue going more than 65 or 70 on the highway? Around here, a rescue on the way to the hospital almost needs to ride in the slow-lane, because people actually have the balls to pass them and get in front of them and continue trucking along way ahead.

Many many inconsiderate and downright stupid/ignorant people on the roads.

**Whybu1** · 10-25-2002, 03:02 PM

Just a for fun aside, as I was leaving TX they passed a law that you could be ticketed for "impeding traffic" if 2 cars were forced to pass you on the right, even if you are going the speed-limit or above when it occurs! Hmm...

Maybe the guy just wanted to avoid a ticket!!