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Unread 06-08-2012, 11:42 AM   #76
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I actually like that wheel better than mine. On mine, once you find the mid-point of your outer marks on the wheel, add the degees together and divide by two and mark it, you rotate the crank to the mid-point and then bend the coat hanger over to '0' on the degree wheel. On that one, you'd leave the coat hanger (or dignified pointer ) in place, loosen the nut and spin the wheel itself over to '0' under the pointer. It's just a little different way at arriving at the same place. On the one you're using, you aren't limited to that exact 3-bolt balancer pattern.

I much prefer a true piston stop to finding TDC than a dial indicator because a piston stop will remove any piston rock from the equation.

As long as you have a reliable means of fixing the dial indicator parallel to the side of the lifter (you could actually set it right in the cup), I don't really see a problem.

Right on, dude. I'm jealous! It's been too damn long and I'm getting ants in my pants.


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Unread 06-08-2012, 12:16 PM   #77
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I can see your point about the three hole mount vs center hold mount. My buddie's dial indicator has a magnetic base with adjustable mounting arms, so I think I can get it parallel to the lifter.
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Unread 06-08-2012, 01:08 PM   #78
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Right on. It sounds like you have a good game plan here. Are you good to go with finding TDC and marking the degree wheel correctly? The reason I ask is that I remember the directions on my Crane kit being fairly confusing. The way it was written didn't jive with the way my brain worked so it took some effort.

I'd also recommend installing the timing indicator that actually goes on the engine when you do this so you can see just how accurate it is when you find true TDC. They're mass-produced, production pieces and could be a little off.

Here http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/fi...r-tdc-1290121/ Just disregard all of JH's bs . Rather than making the marks on the balancer, you'll make them on the wheel and rather than using a metric tape, you'll just add the degrees on the wheel together, divide by two and mark your answer on the wheel. Rotate the engine over to where your pointer is directly over that center mark, loosen the hub on your wheel and spin the wheel over to '0'.

From there, see if '0' on the timing indicator that goes on the engine is right above the hash mark on the balancer... *****, your wheel won't allow a balancer, will it?

How does one overcome that one? You might have to do it again just like I did in the linked thread. Either way, it'll be much easier to do on the stand than in the Jeep.

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Unread 06-08-2012, 02:11 PM   #79
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... *****, your wheel won't allow a balancer, will it?

How does one overcome that one?
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uuuhhhh, well, I was thinking about that too, which is why I like the three bolt attachment method with your wheel. I will have to check that out and let you know. I'll read throught the TDC thread this afternoon, and probably again tonight, and probably in the morning with my coffee just before I break out the short block!!!
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Unread 06-08-2012, 07:16 PM   #80
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"the fever" ... I have to agree, the smell of fresh oil, steel, and assembly lube do have a rather compelling draw. I also have to say, the satisfaction of parts fitting together like they were made for each other feels good too. The sound of the brass drift, thunk, thunk, CLINK!!! is gratifying as well! Did you way you would consider a 383 in your '83??? You'll be doing wheel stands in no time!!!
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Unread 06-09-2012, 05:48 PM   #81
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I feel like that went pretty well! I was able to verify the open and closing of the intake and the exhaust and verify the intake centerline based on the cam card I received (as if I would question Comp Cams....)
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Sweet! Nothing like a little piece of mind. I can't wait 'till you get in the Jeep. I think you're going to really like that cam.


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Dude, math sucks!
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Yep. There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who are good at math, and those who aren't.

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I am a long time performance engine builder and was a tech for a race crank company. Visard was in our place all the time. As was Joe Sherman who is also a dyno wiz. You did a nice job talking him thru the cam choice. Enough info to make it interesting and not so much as to get confusing. I am following this to see how it comes out. I do think your going to have a little torque monster on your hands. Nice job guys.
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Hey thanks Bob!
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Shawn, come on over, were grillin' up some cod, brocolli, and cheese!
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Found this today, had to add it to the "man cave" although the woman uses the man cave just as much as I do....I know, it's my fault for teaching her how to use power tools !!!
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Dang, not exactly sure what that is on the tv, HGTV channel for tonight though....
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By the way, that stack robber is running right now, put in a nice piece of tammy a few minutes ago, our weather has been so crappy lately that Olive Oyl is getting no action. RAIN RAIN and more RAIN.... I thought we moved to Seattle for a minute there.... I'll drive her to work on Monday since we'll be seeing 73* and sunny, maybe Tuesday too, for not sure yet... I'm sure you are having better weather there.
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