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Unread 06-22-2010, 08:22 PM   #1
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Replacement for SR4

I have a feeling my SR4 is about to take a ****. After 16 years w/ this Jeep, I have a sixth sense about such things.

It's getting real hard to find used SR4s that work.

Questions: will a t-5 from a Mustang bolt right in behind a 258? In other words is a T-5 a T-5 a T-5?

Also, is there any other transmission that will bolt right in w/out any mods?

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Unread 06-22-2010, 10:24 PM   #2
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The Borg-Warner SR4 Jeep Transmission - Novak Conversions

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Unread 06-23-2010, 03:33 PM   #3
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I have a working SR4 in a running '81 Scrambler coming up for sale (in NM).
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Unread 06-23-2010, 04:14 PM   #4
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That is a huge post. I've read through Novak's literature but not sure if I trust their "native" tranny's to be bolt-in simple.

RISSLING: Does that mean you're going to pull the tranny and sell the Jeep for parts?
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Unread 06-23-2010, 05:20 PM   #5
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Unread 06-23-2010, 05:27 PM   #6
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Yes on the tranny, no on the Scrambler. I have a 360 I am scheduled to drop in +/- Sept. and cannot use the SR4 anymore with that HP. If you were interested in purchasing it I would take it out sooner.
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Unread 06-23-2010, 06:16 PM   #7
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I read through the Novak stuff again. The other swaps are doable if you buy one of their overpriced adapters. But maybe there are other adapters out there which are cheaper, I dunno.

RISSLING: Nope, that SR-4 wouldn't last very long behind a 360 I don't believe. What condition is that tranny in? And how much to ship to Mount Pleasant, Utah or thereabouts? Zip 84647.
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Unread 06-23-2010, 06:37 PM   #8
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I would just get rid of the SR4, a T-176 would do you justice.
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Unread 06-24-2010, 06:31 AM   #9
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I'd love to do that, too

I'd love to do that, too. Novak says it's factory compatible. I guess my questions is, is any t-176 compatible w/ the 258? I mean can I just grab the bell housing w/ the hydraulic clutch and the clutch plate and such from the SR-4 and stick it all on the T-176 w/out any compatibility problems? And will the T-176 just plug right into the Dana300? 'Cause I'm working w/ a limited budget here.
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Unread 06-24-2010, 11:44 AM   #10
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No sure why my post did not show yesterday, but I will be selling my SR4 once I install the 360 currently collecting cob webs in my garage. So research your options and let me know. It is currently running solidly in my Scrambler as a daily driver and I can take out and include all OEM parts (housing, clutch plate, bearings, etc.) you need.
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Unread 06-24-2010, 05:40 PM   #11
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How much, how long, etc.

RISSLING: How much do you want for that SR-4 and how soon can you stand to part w/ it?
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Unread 06-24-2010, 05:44 PM   #12
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A t176 is a direct replacement on a 258 I6. i wouldnt waste my money on another sr4. The next one will just break on you again. If you dont want a t176, get a t4 or t5. They hold up better, and are a direct replacement as well.
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Unread 06-28-2010, 10:25 AM   #13
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I have never used the 176. My experience with T4 / T5s weakness has been once 3rd gear, twice the brass synchronization rings. Cheap fix for such a pain in the *** drop/dissassembly/re-install. I am unfamiliar with the 176, but swapping up to the T4 T5 doesn't seem like an upgrade to me. I would look into the durability of the 176 and pricing 1st - then let me know if you are still interested in the SR4 I have. I will let it go for a fair (used) price. What does a 176 (if it truely is an upgrade) new or used cost and what are the internal upgrade options?
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Unread 07-04-2010, 10:22 AM   #14
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SR4 Jeep worthy?

I've also never had a prob. w/ the SR4 other than normal wear. I'm pretty sure that's what I'm getting now, as I bought the tranny I've got used and it probably had 150k on it already. I put another 100k on it.

However, I wouldn't put it behind anything bigger than an I-6.
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