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Unread 08-21-2013, 08:47 PM   #16
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I will not use ANY antifreeze that contains Silicates (They are responsible for the bad rap the Ford 6.0 got) I run Final Charge in all of my vehicles from my 06 F250 , my YJ, wife's XJ and Saturn.

Since I switched over my 6.0 to this, I have never had the issues of a plugged EGR cooler, plugged oil cooler or a blown head gasket. Dealership asked me what I was doing different and I asked the service manager if he had any other customers with out issues, the only ones of us that never had issues had switched to Final Charge as soon as we got our trucks.

FINAL CHARGE® Coolant also meets Cummins® 14603, Detroit Diesel® 93K217, Mercedes® 325.3; MAN 324 Typ SNF; MTU 5048; Navistar® CEMS-B1-Type IIIa; Behr Radiator and is recommended for use in all types of heavy-duty diesel gasoline and natural gas engines.

You meantion OAT's and how evil they are, here is som egood news for you:
Q: My truck is using a heavy-duty OAT coolant, and I would like to change to FINAL CHARGE® Coolant. How do I convert my truck?
A: With FINAL CHARGE® Coolant's patented formula, you can convert a truck using a heavy-duty OAT coolant without having to drain, flush and refill the cooling system. For vehicles already using another brand of heavy-duty OAT coolant, simply begin and continue fulfilling all top off requirements with FINAL CHARGE® Coolant.

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http://www.peakhd.com/product-lines/final-charge/faq/
Thanks for the product pitch lol lol just teasing. At our shop we push it too

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Unread 08-21-2013, 08:49 PM   #17
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do you have a high-school or community college automotive repair class you could take it to? Basically you pay for the parts, they fix it for free to give the students experience in different repairs.
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Unread 08-26-2013, 09:08 PM   #18
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Looking into having the local Technical college do the work, but doesn't look like it is going to work. Trying to assemble a list of things needed. Here is what I have got so far, Please add or subtract as needed, any advice is appreciated.

Get cylinder head hot tanked, valve job, magnafluxed, and machined

Gaskets:
Head gasket-Felpro?
Intake and exhaust manifold gasket
Valve cover gasket,
Oil pan gasket,

Oil filter, new oil,
Oil pump?, High volume or OEM replacement?

New water pump, Is it worth the extra cash for the High volume unit?
Thermostat is new, and I doubt the gasket has any wear, but I will replace if any damage
Replace spring to lower hose that I tossed with old lower hose
radiator flush and new fluid (fluid looks good and hasn't gone down any while sitting up)

New Spark plugs Autolite double platinum

new head bolts, push rods

New engine belt

Possible replacements
New cylinder head from Clearwater cylinder heads if mine is cracked
New exhaust manifold?

Anything else that needs to be budgeted for?
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Unread 08-26-2013, 09:57 PM   #19
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Soda/beer for the help?
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Unread 08-27-2013, 11:29 AM   #20
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OEM oil & water pumps are just fine. Higher volumes would put undo pressure on stock parts. You'll have plenty of coolant flow an oil pressure stock.
Felpro gaskets are good but don't get the cheap blue one. Spend a little more there.
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Unread 09-08-2013, 07:38 PM   #21
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Update

I have Tore down the engine this weekend except for removing the Cylinder head bolts. Does this require a special socket. It seems a 13mm is the best fit but it is still trying to spin. The bolts have almost a star head. I stopped for the night hoping someone could help me out.

By the way removing the lower bolts of the intake manifold is a royal PITA! Otherwise not a bad job even for someone who has limited mechanical ability. Also got lucky, My exhaust manifold isn't visibly cracked, and I found a local machine shop that will take care of the Cylinder head when it is removed for 70 bucks.

Other question, and I tried to google it, what are your opinions on cleaning the intake manifold while it is removed and how would you do it if you think it should be done.

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Unread 09-09-2013, 10:26 AM   #22
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Get it hot tanked, See how much it would cost to get it ported and polished while they have it for the hot tanking.
I get mine done for free, have a buddy that does it and we trade out work.
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Unread 09-18-2013, 09:08 PM   #23
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Cylinder head is out and ready to go to the machine shop. No obvious cracks, I will have to wait and see what the machine shop says.

What is the best way to clean the top of the block? I have shop rags in each of the cylinders. Looks like part of the old head gasket got stuck to the block around cylinder 6.
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Unread 09-18-2013, 10:19 PM   #24
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Puddy knife. Plastic one. Don't use abrasive stuff.
Hows the lip on the cylinders? Cylinders look good? Cover the block really well keep moisture off!
Spray it thoroughly with wd40 or Tranny fluid. Keep rust off. Just remember to clean it good before the gasket goes on
Might be a good time to do timing chain and water pump now.
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Unread 09-21-2013, 08:01 PM   #25
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Well new cylinder head from Clearwater is on its way. Old one was cracked. I got the thicker one so hopefully this process won't be repeated. Going to take the oil pan off tonight and install the new oil pump tomorrow.

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Unread 09-21-2013, 08:04 PM   #26
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Cylinders have some carbon build-up but I can't really say much more about them. There are no gaps around them and the tops all look undamaged.

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Unread 09-22-2013, 10:22 PM   #27
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Unread 09-23-2013, 07:20 PM   #28
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Just looking at my oil pan I am going to replace the rear main seal while everything is pulled off. Learning a lot about my jeep, but the more I get into it the more I rationalize fixing the next thing. The dollars are adding up, but hopefully she will be back running soon.
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Unread 09-24-2013, 07:00 PM   #29
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Got the cylinder head from Clearwater today. It did not have the metal dowels for the exhaust/intake manifold dowels. Any suggestions, I still have the original cylinder with dowels and the new one had the holes for dowels, they just aren't installed.
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Unread 09-25-2013, 05:49 AM   #30
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Install new dowels.
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If you love wealth more than liberty,the tranquility of servitude more than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains sit lightly on your shoulders and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
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A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Thomas Jefferson

Calling Illegal Aliens "Undocumented Immigrants" is like calling drug dealers "Unlicensed Pharmacists"

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"Your right, the Tea Party and the OWS are the same, just like the America Revolution and the French Revolution were the same. The only problem is the American Revolution ended with Liberty, Freedom, Justice for all and a shining light upon a hill. The French Revolution ended with lynchings, guillotines, murder and socialism. So yeah, I could see how one could confuse the two..."

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