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Unread 03-12-2006, 01:28 AM   #1
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Ford 8.8, Dana 44, or Super 35

Alright, I've been thinking for a while about a new rear axle. I currently have a D35 with a limited slip and drum brakes. I'd like to get disc brakes in some way. I've thought of the 8.8 a lot but getting away from C-clip axles would be nice too, which is why I've thought of the dana 44. Just looking for any suggestions. As for the Super 35, it's a plus of getting a locker and not having to deal with an axle swap. BTW, I'm running 33 inch BFG muds but will be going to 35s in the future.

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Unread 03-12-2006, 03:36 AM   #2
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I wouldn't waste the time or money on the super 35 kit. for the price, you can swap to a stronger axle. with the super 35 kit you are still left with the weak housing, tubes, and ring gear. I did the 8.8 swap and I love it. I got my 8.8 from a 99 explorer at the local pick n pull with 3.73s, a limited slip, and disc brakes for 130 bucks. All told I have about 1,000 into the swap, which is right around what the super 35 kit and install would run. and i went the exspensive route with it. I stuffed it with an ARB, Yukon 4,10 gears, and added a Warn Diff skid. I also got new rotors, pads, and other misc brake parts. the C-clips on the 8.8 arent as much of a concern because the shafts are 150% stronger than the ones on the dana 35. you have to blow a shaft before the c-clips become an issue.

As for the swap itself, I got it installed in about 4 hours. only reason it took that long was fiddling with the brakes. the 8.8 is a bit narrower than the 35, but its not noticable, it also has the stock 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern.

I do the 8.8 or the dana 44. look to M.O.R.E. for all the brackets and such you will need, they sell kits with all the parts you will need to do the swap
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Unread 03-12-2006, 11:21 AM   #3
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When I was facing the same decision, I chose the 8.8.

I have about $1200 in mine including regearing to 4.56 and adding a selectable locker. For the price, its impossible to beat everything you get with the 8.8 swap.
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Unread 03-12-2006, 11:26 PM   #4
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Plus with disk brakes, if you snap a shaft on the 8.8 the caliper will keep the wheel from falling off - the main complaint about c-slip axles.
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if you have to have absolute peace of mind toss another $150 at it and you will have a very solid axle to swap in.
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Unread 03-14-2006, 12:14 PM   #6
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if you have to have absolute peace of mind toss another $150 at it and you will have a very solid axle to swap in.
C-clip eliminator kits are a bad idea for off-road use.

They usually cause leaks and don't work well with large amounts of side-load stress.
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Unread 03-18-2006, 10:11 AM   #7
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I wouldn't waste the time or money on the super 35 kit. for the price, you can swap to a stronger axle. with the super 35 kit you are still left with the weak housing, tubes, and ring gear. I did the 8.8 swap and I love it. I got my 8.8 from a 99 explorer at the local pick n pull with 3.73s, a limited slip, and disc brakes for 130 bucks. All told I have about 1,000 into the swap, which is right around what the super 35 kit and install would run. and i went the exspensive route with it. I stuffed it with an ARB, Yukon 4,10 gears, and added a Warn Diff skid. I also got new rotors, pads, and other misc brake parts. the C-clips on the 8.8 arent as much of a concern because the shafts are 150% stronger than the ones on the dana 35. you have to blow a shaft before the c-clips become an issue.

As for the swap itself, I got it installed in about 4 hours. only reason it took that long was fiddling with the brakes. the 8.8 is a bit narrower than the 35, but its not noticable, it also has the stock 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern.

I do the 8.8 or the dana 44. look to M.O.R.E. for all the brackets and such you will need, they sell kits with all the parts you will need to do the swap
Are ford 8.8's a direct bolt on for a cherokee?
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C-clip eliminator kits are a bad idea for off-road use.

They usually cause leaks and don't work well with large amounts of side-load stress.
I would be interested in reading about this, I have not stumbled across anything yet that would suport your statement.

I ran into a gentlemen last Monday afternoon that finds these axles and then custom builds them to customer specs, he mentioned to me that when customers want the c clips eliminated he sets the axle up using 9" axles with pressed on bearings, another option to consider.
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Unread 03-18-2006, 11:06 AM   #9
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just picked up my 8.8 today w/ 4.10's and limited slip. got a great deal, and when all said and done, the swap should cost me less than $500 w/ the price of the axle. it same w/ all the brake stuff, and was i great shape. just got to clean it up, weld the perches on it, and paint it to prevent rust.
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Are ford 8.8's a direct bolt on for a cherokee?
pretty damn close. only thing youd have to do is cut the perches off and weld new ones on for SOA
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Unread 03-18-2006, 03:45 PM   #11
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8.8>44>super35 in my opinion. depends on what you can find for the $4

if I found a D44 with the 4.10's I am looking for, I would but that instead of having to regear an 8.8
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8.8>44>super35 in my opinion. depends on what you can find for the $4

if I found a D44 with the 4.10's I am looking for, I would but that instead of having to regear an 8.8
i agree, a d44 and an 8.8 are both awesome upgrades from stock, and would both be about the same to install.they both have their pro's and con's,but do the job nicely. the reason i got my 8.8 was cause it had 4.10's so no need to re-gear, and it came w/ disc brakes, which are nice to help stop those bigger tires.
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you can always look at the rodeo/passports from the 90's upto 2000 i think, tow package has a disc 44 although it would be 6x5.5 lug pattern and metric threads on the brake lines.

4.10 and 4.30 R&P with LSD in some.
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I would be interested in reading about this, I have not stumbled across anything yet that would suport your statement.

I ran into a gentlemen last Monday afternoon that finds these axles and then custom builds them to customer specs, he mentioned to me that when customers want the c clips eliminated he sets the axle up using 9" axles with pressed on bearings, another option to consider.
I was going to install a c-clip eliminator kit in my 8.8, but I had a couple different gear reps advise against it.

They told me installing a c-clip eliminator kit will usually cause oil leaks around the bearing and flange area. And both of these guys are pretty knowledgable. One was a guy from Reider Racing who I've always dealt with. And just to make sure he wasn't giving me a load of crap, I also verified this with someone at Randy's R&P.

So its not from personal experience, but I definitely trust the opinions of the guys who gave me this advice.
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pretty damn close. only thing youd have to do is cut the perches off and weld new ones on for SOA
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