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Unread 12-08-2013, 02:28 PM   #1
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D35 destroys itself

So I have a 2005 TJ. I drove home from work the other day and was backing into a parking spot and I heard this loud bang with a jerk. . The Jeep was still in gear but nothing was happening. My worry was it was either the axle or drive shaft. I inspected it the next day and looked as if the shafts were intact and functioning. But the the axle was not responding to any power input.

I had it towed to the Jeep dealership nearby (warranty). They called me yesterday and told me that theyve never seen a D35 do this before. The inside apparently looked as if a grenade went off inside the axle. And the only fix is a complete replacement (thank god its only $200). Anyone ever hear of this happening? Not really looking for advice, Just thought I would post this experience for y'all!

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Unread 12-08-2013, 06:06 PM   #2
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A Turdy Five esploding!!!??? Blasphamy! Why they should do quite well with 700rwhp.

JK, they have a rep of blowing up.

So was it your carrier going out or the shaft let loose and took out the ring & pinion or what?
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488's, 37's, big rocks and an E-brake used as a locker were involved. I have still never broke any r&p or twisted a stock shaft off.



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A Turdy Five esploding!!!??? Blasphamy! Why they should do quite well with 700rwhp.

JK, they have a rep of blowing up.

So was it your carrier going out or the shaft let loose and took out the ring & pinion or what?
I will let you all know what happened when I go to pick up the Jeep. But I thought that the Dana 35 was an Ok rear axle. Crap...

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Unread 12-08-2013, 09:44 PM   #5
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488's, 37's, big rocks and an E-brake used as a locker were involved. I have still never broke any r&p or twisted a stock shaft off.



Yeah.... Parking Lot, Reverse gear, and destroyed rear axle. (lol).
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Unread 12-09-2013, 01:49 AM   #6
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Don't feel bad I killed four of them before I finally upgraded. And that was with 31" tires.
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Unread 12-10-2013, 09:19 PM   #7
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Don't feel bad I killed four of them before I finally upgraded. And that was with 31" tires.
Not very promising for me lol.

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Yeah but bouncing them and any rear will break, he didn't break them backing into a spot.

You had a cross pin failure and most likely why it did that, as for the pics above i have seen D-80's do that, 14b's 70's, 60's i have seen almost EVERY diff made break a open carrier, and most were done plowing snow.

Nothing is invincible when used wrong, however you weren't hearing a knocking noise hear and there prior to breaking it GammaRei. The 35 is fine when used correctly and all 4 tires are on the ground.
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The D35 is well known to be fragile. I have seen 2 stock TJ's, and a mildly lifted XJ snap a D35 shaft, right in front of me.


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I have a zj since I bought it new, somewhere in 04 it became modified and then heavily modified, 700hp, draggin it since 05 hasn't hurt a single part, Dana 44 built sitting on a stand covered waiting YEARS now for this supposedly weak axle to fail.

Amazing how strong that axle is, so can't say its fragile, MISUSE is an entirely different subject
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Yeah turning out of a parking lot is so hard on a diff, it is kinda what it is designed for.

I am still calling BS on your Turdy five living behind 700rwhp since '05. You must only have about 175ftlbs of torque because simple physics and material properties dictates that a shaft if a certain size and spline count (not counting the nuances of either cut of forged splines) will have a maximum continuous torque rating and a maximum torque rating. I can't see how an engine capable of generating 700hp isn't so far outside the range of tolerable torque levels as to not be laughable let alone survivable with the "mighty D35". You have made the claim, we have said to either back it up with facts, or shut the hell up about your fictitious and fabled rear end. You ad nothing to the tech discussions with your asinine assertions of the reliability of a marginal 1/4ton rear axle in stock applications. You claim it is stock, but not a sane person would make those claims even if you were talking about a turdyfive super with more awesome upgrade kit complete with +50hp stickers.
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...... the dana 35 like mine that has been seeing 700 plus hp since 2005
Sure, whatever you say dude.
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I can't see how an engine capable of generating 700hp isn't so far outside the range of tolerable torque levels as to not be laughable let alone survivable with the "mighty D35". You have made the claim, we have said to either back it up with facts, or shut the hell up about your fictitious and fabled rear end. You ad nothing to the tech discussions with your asinine assertions of the reliability of a marginal 1/4ton rear axle in stock applications. You claim it is stock, but not a sane person would make those claims even if you were talking about a turdyfive super with more awesome upgrade kit complete with +50hp stickers.
I have given you the opportunity to show up with money and you can touch it, get a ride, and race against it, and then for an additional amount i'll pop the cover and let you investigate.

Add nothing to the tech, there is no tech here, just people with problems and other people giving mostly bad advice to solve their problems.

The only thing you actually for once bring in here as per intelligent is the axle spline and tq rating, however you bring with that 0.0 knowledge of what a 26 thru 30 spl axle's tq rating might be, now i actually know what and the area those axles tq limits are.
Oddly enough at 700hp and 630ft lbs im about 400 ft lbs from the D-35 axles tq limit, which you have no idea what that number is.

This is the most tech this board has seen.

All i see here is the D-35 is this and that, not one of you know it's your driving habits, or lack of driving that is breaking them and not the axles fault.
Sure some of you may be exerting some force on them and they break, but that is your fault not the axle.

It would be intelligent for all of you to stop making stupid generalizations about an axle that isn't true.

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Like the all sp special tech advice you give everyone on here, put a 8.8 in it, right thats so technical and well thought out for a guy who had a cross pin failure that every diff has at some time.
thats a smart and technical solution to a simple problem and fix, and then you throw out there stupid prices that no one else is going to get like 165 for both axles, you keep smoking whatever drugs it is you smoke and give your wonderful fairly tale prices to people that aren't real world everyday options.

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Unread 12-11-2013, 10:22 PM   #14
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630ftlbs is actually only about 140ftlbs away from the 870ftlbs COT rating and that is with stock tires, gear ratio and tranny and AFTER the torque gets multiplied by the transmission. But you know if you change any one of those, you change the amount of torque and stress the axle is having to deal with because you are an expert and all.
So is that 630ftlbs at the flywheel or at the rear wheel? What size tires are you running? what tranny are you running? Gear ratio?
How come no pics of the axle or the vehicle in question? You made an asinine claim, You got called out for it so either produce the facts or go back under your bridge.
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