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Unread 10-11-2007, 04:59 PM   #1
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Auto or manual trany

I'm new at forums, but not Jeeps. I've had a CJ 5 & 7 both with manual 4 speeds. I am looking at a new (200-2005) Wrangler. Like my CJ7 it will be used for hunting, general wheeling, and snow in that order. I don't rock crawl or mud bog (no offense intended). I want to maximize the used vehicles that are available to choose from which means I need to think about automatics. I do like the compound crawl of a manual which I won't get in an auto. This will be driven as a back up vehicle on some occaction, and the wife does NOT drive manuals well (God bless her). Most of the time it will be trailered to & from hunting which will include some VERY steep hills, snow, and mud. I know I need 4:10 which I think means I am limited to the Rubicon. Any input on tranny type would be greatly appriceated. All opions welcomed. Thanks,

Bob

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Unread 10-11-2007, 10:08 PM   #2
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How dare you say "mud bog"

Just kidding. From the sound of it an auto would be your best bet. I personally have a manual, but to each his own. That is unless you do not want your wife to drive it


Check out this thread. It is a discussion on manaul or automatic for another guy.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showt...ghlight=manual

Good luck with your search.
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Unread 10-11-2007, 10:40 PM   #3
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i actually have a manual wrangler and i like it in some situations but let me say this...my friend puts me to shame with his auto. He also doesnt get tired of pushing in the clutch and enjoys it more. I am personally looking at the rubicons too and im going with an automatic b/c there are hills around here and its better i believe. Also if you do technical 4wheelin a clutch will temporarily wear out quicker as in the clutch going soft which limits its effectivness.
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Unread 10-12-2007, 12:53 PM   #4
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I am used to manuals including my truck with 300,000 on it (yes it's a diesel). I am mainly concerned that going down steep hills the auto will not allow the tourge converter to lock up and provide a granny gear like a manual would have. I guess I could always throw out an anchor though.
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Unread 10-12-2007, 02:15 PM   #5
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Having just bought a 2000 TJ and going through the process that you are now going through I started out wanting a manual but ended up buying a automatic. Keep an open mind and when the right Jeep comes along for the right price jump on it. I haven't driven a manual vehicle in 10 years and I don't miss the numerous shifting in traffic plus my wife doesn't like manuals. Mostly likely the manual will be cheaper to maintain and easier to work on.
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Unread 10-12-2007, 05:50 PM   #6
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Sycotick: Thank you for the link that was VERY helpful and sincerly appricated.

Chayes: It sounds like our process towards a Jeep may be similar. I love my CJ7 and the manual is great. With that said I also think the auto may be better as an all around tranny and more so with the my better half not liking a stick.
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Unread 10-14-2007, 08:13 AM   #7
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Just out of curiosity, how is this poll at all going to help you or determine anything when both selections are "Help"?
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Unread 10-14-2007, 10:46 AM   #8
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I spent months looking and driving 1999-2002 TJs and when I came across the 2000 TJ that I bought, it had most everything that I wanted. I'm glad it had an automatic transmission.
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Unread 10-14-2007, 01:51 PM   #9
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Dave jb: I'm not sure that the selections were supposed to be used for. I was mainly looking for a cross section of what folks were driving and what their main use was (crawling, mud, etc.) It seems that most crawlers like the auto. My only reservation with an auto is not having the compound 1st gear for down hill.
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Unread 10-14-2007, 02:39 PM   #10
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Dave jb: I'm not sure that the selections were supposed to be used for. I was mainly looking for a cross section of what folks were driving and what their main use was (crawling, mud, etc.) It seems that most crawlers like the auto. My only reservation with an auto is not having the compound 1st gear for down hill.
When you make a poll, it's for members to select their answer to your question, like when you go to the polls to vote, you provide the answers to choose from. If you are just asking a question, you don't use the poll.
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Unread 10-14-2007, 09:44 PM   #11
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Okay got it. Thanks. I'll do better next time. :0)
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Unread 10-15-2007, 06:15 AM   #12
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For punishment go out and buy something expensive for your Jeep and think about what you've done!
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Unread 10-15-2007, 08:49 AM   #13
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A manual is better in terms of engine braking, but thats about all it does better.

An auto will have a better crawl ratio due to the nearly infinite gearing possibilities with the torque converter.

An auto will also make more torque at lower RPM due to the torque multiplication effect of the torque converter.
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Unread 10-16-2007, 10:48 AM   #14
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Get what you and your wife will both drive.

Clutches do not go soft or go away if properly adjusted and driven.
Autos are easier for the unskilled to drive.
Autos work better in rush hour traffic jams (on the street).
Autos are better at not breaking parts in high horsepower applications (not an issue with most jeeps).
When the juice leaks out of an auto you are done.
when the clutches or bands give out in an auto you are done (rare).
when the seals go in an auto you will be done shortly after (rare).
Manuals for the most part will at least get you back to the road.
Vehicle setup and proper driving techniques are of primary importance with either.
A few autos were made with rear pumps, these will provide the same compression braking down hills as manuals.
It is mostly a matter of preference.
You couldn't give me an auto.

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Unread 10-16-2007, 12:00 PM   #15
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A manual is better in terms of engine braking, but thats about all it does better.

An auto will have a better crawl ratio due to the nearly infinite gearing possibilities with the torque converter.

An auto will also make more torque at lower RPM due to the torque multiplication effect of the torque converter.

While torque multiplication increases the torque delivered to the turbine output shaft, it also increases the slippage within the converter, raising the temperature of the fluid and reducing overall efficiency. For this reason, the characteristics of the torque converter must be carefully matched to the torque curve of the power source and the intended application. Changing the blade geometry of the stator and/or turbine will change the torque-stall characteristics, as well as the overall efficiency of the unit. For example, drag racing automatic transmissions often use converters modified to produce high stall speeds to improve off-the-line torque, and to get into the power band of the engine more quickly. Highway vehicles generally use lower stall torque converters to limit heat production, and provide a more firm feeling to the vehicle's characteristics
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