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Unread 04-26-2014, 10:40 AM   #1
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Along with the Ford 8.8, what do I keep??

I'm about to go to the scrap yard and pick up a ford 8.8 out of a 1997 Ford Explorer I've been eyeing up. It's got disks, 31 spline shafts, 373 gears and limited slip. Along with the axle itself, what else should I be taking??
Can I take the yoke adapter flange from the Explorer? Are the ujoints the same size? Should I take the sway bar? Any brake lines? E brake cables?
I'd like to do this swap with the most items salvaged that I can, and it appears to all be there on this vehicle... Thanks for the input!

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Unread 04-26-2014, 03:58 PM   #2
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Yes, take the flange adapter off the pinion flange. Also, go ahead and get the u-bolts and plates while you are there, as well as the E-brake cables...they can be refitted to work with the Jeep. Make sure you cut the cables way up, above the connector where the two sides join. No need for the sway bar, unless you just want a randomly bent piece of metal.
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Unread 04-27-2014, 10:59 AM   #3
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So the flange adapter for the ford 8.8 fits a 1310 ujoint?? I tried looking that up but I found its for a 330 or 331 ujoint I wasn't sure if they are the same..
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Unread 04-27-2014, 12:17 PM   #4
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Get the yoke off of an earlier Explorer with drum brakes - those had 1310 U-joints. The 1330 u-joint came with the disc brake 8.8s.

To answer your other questions:

At my local pull a part, they will charge you for all the extra components - rotors, calipers, yoke, e brake cables, etc. If yours is the same, then be sure to just get what you need or plan to reuse.

Calipers and rotors are optional - you might want to replace them. Or get rotors calipers from another Explorer and swap them onto your axle, if yours aren't good.

Figure out how you want to do your hard brake lines. You may want to grab an extra Explorer passenger side brake line while you are there. (research, and this will be clear)

Yes, you may want to grab the e brake cables as suggested above. I cut the cable well forward up near the front door with a hacksaw blade and removed a bracket to get the e brake cable free. I got them, but didn't use them - see the details in my 8.8 thread in my signature.

Also, a special tool will make e brake cable work MUCH easier. Grab "Lisle 40750" from your local parts store.



If you remove the calipers, make sure that that you keep the banjo bolts - they seem to be difficult to find. Also, keep the little thin steel tracks that the pads run on - they fall off and get lost very easily. And of course, also keep the caliper mounting bolts.
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Unread 04-27-2014, 03:42 PM   #5
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Makes no difference on the flange, as there are adapter joints available through AutoZone. I can't remember the part number, but its a 1310-1330 joint that will work with the Ford flange and Jeep DS.

Never knew about the Lisle E-brake tool, I will be ordering one tonight!
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Unread 04-27-2014, 04:08 PM   #6
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Makes no difference on the flange, as there are adapter joints available through AutoZone. I can't remember the part number, but its a 1310-1330 joint that will work with the Ford flange and Jeep DS. Never knew about the Lisle E-brake tool, I will be ordering one tonight!
OP, get the earlier 1310 flange, so all your u joints are the same. You can get the bxstard 1310 to 1330 joint, but why? It won't take any time for you to get it while you are there.
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I just got home with the donor axle. It's out of a 97 explorer, 3.73 gears, 31 spline shafts, limited slip with disk brakes! I got the whole axle with calipers and brake lines for $107, Can't go wrong with that.

The flange that was on the driveshaft connecting to this axle was too big to be a 1310... I'm thinking I have to find one off a different year explorer, but I'm going to go back for sure because scrapyard prices are worth the trip.

StanF, So long as the explorer came with drum brakes, the flange is a 1310? How can I tell for sure if it is or not?
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Unread 04-27-2014, 07:27 PM   #8
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StanF, So long as the explorer came with drum brakes, the flange is a 1310? How can I tell for sure if it is or not?
The easiest way is to simply measure the flange. I'm pretty sure Rangers with the 8.8 have the 1310 flange yoke, but I still don't think its worth the trouble to pull one. It would be one thing if its sitting there on the shelf waiting for you, but having to remove the driveshaft and then remove the flange yoke is not worth the fight to me....especially considering you can pick up a 1310-1330 joint for under $10. I can see the appeal of having all the U-joints the same size, but keeping one of each in the Jeep for a trail ride is certainly not difficult. Its not as though it really takes up much space. Besides, unless you have an extreme angle due to a lift, its not exactly common to break a DS U-joint.

If you do go back for a 1310 flange yoke, will they lift the vehicle for you, or will you have to climb underneath and pull it?

Regardless of what I have posted, if you can get one cheap enough, go for it...but if they want more than $20, I'd pass.
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Unread 04-27-2014, 08:25 PM   #9
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The yokes are $7 at my local pull-a-part. By the time you finish this swap, you'll probably have 40 hours or more invested. An extra 10 min to get the correct flange is my recommendation...

As far as I know, all drum brake Explorers had 1310s. It's best to measure, though, just to be sure.

Great price on your axle - I paid about double that. Update us with some pictures of your new 8.8!
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Unread 04-27-2014, 10:26 PM   #10
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There she is!! Came out from underneath a green exploder on leafs, surprisingly no bolts were seized and it came out fairly easy. Bent dust shield though, no biggie.
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Unread 04-28-2014, 06:05 AM   #11
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Looking good!

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Oooookay so I think I might have screwed up.... I cut off the parking brake cables from the 8.8, both past the steel coupler on the side of the frame because I thought that would give me enough length. The shortest is 39" and the other is double that. Did I cut them too short or are they going to work for me??
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Unread 05-05-2014, 03:25 PM   #13
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Ones 39" the other is around 80"
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I can't remember the exact lengths, but I can measure mine in the morning. Sounds like you might be OK, as they don't have to be very long to connect with the Jeep E-brake hardware.
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That would be mighty solid of you
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