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Unread 12-29-2012, 02:16 AM   #1
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8.8 Drum Brake rebuild kit

Hey guys/gals.

I've got a 94 explorer 8.8 with nothing but the backing plates for brakes. So I was looking for help to see if anyone has found a kit that has all that springs, adjusters, cylinders, shoes, etc. I could prices this together on rock auto, I'm sure. But I don't want to risk missing prices. Currie only seems to have 11" kits? Any help would be awesome!!

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Unread 12-29-2012, 12:20 PM   #2
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JUST the backing plates, nothing else, not even the small levers for the parking brakes?

I can help with the parts list on Rock Auto if I know what you have.
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JUST the backing plates, nothing else, not even the small levers for the parking brakes?

I can help with the parts list on Rock Auto if I know what you have.
Well, I bought the axle with the brakes torn down by the previous owner. He gave me a baggy with the differential cover bolts, and I think maybe a few brake parts. I have two each of these little guys, the hold down springs, and the parking brake cable guides. Maybe some others but I might as well replace what I can with new stuff for peace of mind. Or would it be cheaper at this point to swap to discs? Thanks for any help!
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Well, I bought the axle with the brakes torn down by the previous owner. He gave me a baggy with the differential cover bolts, and I think maybe a few brake parts. I have two each of these little guys, the hold down springs, and the parking brake cable guides. Maybe some others but I might as well replace what I can with new stuff for peace of mind. Or would it be cheaper at this point to swap to discs? Thanks for any help!
Backing plates are used by both rear drum and rear disc set-ups. Those bits you have are from rear drums. Is that correct?
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Backing plates are used by both rear drum and rear disc set-ups. Those bits you have are from rear drums. Is that correct?
Oh, yeah sorry. It's definitely drum brakes.
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Well, I bought the axle with the brakes torn down by the previous owner. He gave me a baggy with the differential cover bolts, and I think maybe a few brake parts. I have two each of these little guys, the hold down springs, and the parking brake cable guides. Maybe some others but I might as well replace what I can with new stuff for peace of mind. Or would it be cheaper at this point to swap to discs? Thanks for any help!
I don't think it would be cheaper to swap to discs unless you can snag the backing plates off of a trashed housing. They are much simpler to work on though and that is a decision you will need to make.

If it were mine, I would swap to discs, but it's not mine.
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I don't think it would be cheaper to swap to discs unless you can snag the backing plates off of a trashed housing. They are much simpler to work on though and that is a decision you will need to make.

If it were mine, I would swap to discs, but it's not mine.
I've never really looked at a rear disc setup. Would I pretty much just need to pickup a set of disc backing plates and the caliper braket thing? Besides the caliper and etc, would I need much else?
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I've never really looked at a rear disc setup. Would I pretty much just need to pickup a set of disc backing plates and the caliper braket thing? Besides the caliper and etc, would I need much else?
This is the 8.8 loaded backing plate. Outside of what you see in the pic, you will need a rotor, caliper, caliper bolts, brake pads, flex hoses, banjo bolt, crush washers, flex hose mount with clip, and parking brake cables from an 03 up TJ with rear discs.

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This is the 8.8 loaded backing plate. Outside of what you see in the pic, you will need a rotor, caliper, caliper bolts, brake pads, flex hoses, banjo bolt, crush washers, flex hose mount with clip, and parking brake cables from an 03 up TJ with rear discs.
Right on! It seems like, at this point, why not just swap to discs. Do you know if these parts will simply bolt onto my 8.8? If it fits my drum model I'll go grab the important stuff out of the junkyard. And maybe grab a set of those fancy Black Magic pads, and centric rotors I hear so much about!
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Right on! It seems like, at this point, why not just swap to discs. Do you know if these parts will simply bolt onto my 8.8? If it fits my drum model I'll go grab the important stuff out of the junkyard. And maybe grab a set of those fancy Black Magic pads, and centric rotors I hear so much about!
That is a darn good question. I can't find the info that tells me if they will. There were no disc brake rear axles in 94, so the interchange info doesn't work. I looked at the rear wheel bearing and it shows it working up until 96 which isn't encouraging. If it interchanged up to 2001, that would have told us they were the same or close enough to try.

Know any folks that are smart about 8.8's?
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That is a darn good question. I can't find the info that tells me if they will. There were no disc brake rear axles in 94, so the interchange info doesn't work. I looked at the rear wheel bearing and it shows it working up until 96 which isn't encouraging. If it interchanged up to 2001, that would have told us they were the same or close enough to try.

Know any folks that are smart about 8.8's?
Well, I found a thread on just a minute ago: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=305248

Seems like a fellow there has bolted the brake parts directly onto the 94 housing. Sounds optimistic. I'll give it a whack and maybe make a little how-to write up!
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The '95 & newer 8.8 disc brakes are a direct swap for your '94 8.8 axle.

Only the brakes are different, housings, bearing flanges, and axles are exactly the same from drum to disc versions.

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The '95 & newer 8.8 disc brakes are a direct swap for your '94 8.8 axle.

Only the brakes are different, housings, bearing flanges, and axles are exactly the same from drum to disc versions.

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What changed about the rear axle bearing? Did they just make it wider with wider rollers to increase towing capacity or something?
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Nothing. Both the '94 drum & '95 disc brake version 8.8 axles use a #6408 Timken wheel bearing.

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