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Unread 06-03-2014, 03:14 PM   #16
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Please do not use a 3 jawed puller on the harmonic balancer. It uses a rubber dampener and you will damage it.
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Unread 06-06-2014, 02:18 AM   #17
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If your talking about the front main seal, the kit I'm getting comes with a new one... Does anyone know the best way to remove the Harmonic Balancer after removing the 21mm bolt? The recommended shop tool is hard to get and expensive from what I've heard. 3 jaw puller looks very similar but maybe not as heavy duty. I've read to put it back on you can lightly tap it on and use the OEM bolt but its not recommended, or you can buy a longer generic bolt w nut and washer to thread it in without tapping which is the route I'll probably go with the install phase. PVC pipe is used to fit the rear main and front main seals.
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Unread 06-06-2014, 02:35 AM   #18
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Unread 06-07-2014, 12:02 AM   #19
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The correct puller is a 3 jaw but its designed to grab those lugs on the inside center of those spokes. This is a common puller and should be easy to find. Like I mentioned earlier local auto parts stores probably have it available on the loaner/rental program. I don't know what design 3 jaw puller you have but if it can fit behind those spokes and grab the base of the balancer then give it a try, you just dont want to grab the outer ring which is rubber isolated. Most 3 jaw pullers are too thick at the ends of the jaws and wont fit behind the balancer, that's why the special tool fingers are flatter to fit right.
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Unread 06-08-2014, 01:07 PM   #20
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Thanks that clarifies things a bit. As long as I know it will work. I'll check with the local Autozone and there's a place nearby called Baxter Auto Parts for rental stuff. Here's a picture of the pullers I saw at Baxter. Not sure if any size would work but I'm guessing the bigger the better. I might get lucky on the engine hoist, I've put the word out and someone says they know someone who might have one. All the wires are off the engine and I took off the last manifold. Only thing left to do is unbolt the tranny and torque coverter, but I'll have to take the grill and radiator off for a little more clearance. The engine is so small now with everything off seems like I could just maneuver it out but I was thinking I'd like to put it together outside the Jeep when I'm ready and dump it back in so clearance would be a good thing for that.
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Unread 06-08-2014, 05:49 PM   #21
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Thanks that clarifies things a bit. As long as I know it will work. I'll check with the local Autozone and there's a place nearby called Baxter Auto Parts for rental stuff. Here's a picture of the pullers I saw at Baxter. Not sure if any size would work but I'm guessing the bigger the better. I might get lucky on the engine hoist, I've put the word out and someone says they know someone who might have one. All the wires are off the engine and I took off the last manifold. Only thing left to do is unbolt the tranny and torque coverter, but I'll have to take the grill and radiator off for a little more clearance. The engine is so small now with everything off seems like I could just maneuver it out but I was thinking I'd like to put it together outside the Jeep when I'm ready and dump it back in so clearance would be a good thing for that.
the tool you're looking for is "harmonic balancer puller" or "harmonic balancer removal tool"

Autozone dont know ****, i always avoid those clueless people.
you have better luck with advance, o'reillys, napa, etc since theire trained to know about cars. some of them are even ASE certified parts specialists.
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Unread 06-09-2014, 09:13 PM   #22
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Autozone dont know ****, i always avoid those clueless people.
you have better luck with advance, o'reillys, napa, etc since theire trained to know about cars. some of them are even ASE certified parts specialists.
That will vary wildly from one location to another. My local Advance used to be great, but the they have really gone downhill in the last few years, while the Autozone directly across the street generally has pretty knowledgeable people.

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Unread 06-10-2014, 12:48 AM   #23
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Im sure you found something that will work by now, but if not just google "chrysler harmonic balancer puller", look at images to get an idea of what you need. The 3 jaws are relatively short and flat, and you should see 2-4 stems of different lengths for the center of the puller to push against inside the crank/threaded hole.


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Unread 06-10-2014, 01:29 PM   #24
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1) Buy a hoist from harbor freight & pull that darn engine.
2) The bearing material that is left on the crank is yet another sign of issues in that engine
3) Rebuild it - that thing is going to f! up anything new you throw into it.
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I wouldn't use anything that has jaws. The balancer isn't designed to be pulled that way and you run the risk of damaging it.
Harbor Freight sells a cheap one or most FLAPS have one for rent or loan.

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The jaw style puller pictured above should be fine - it doesn't grab the outside of the balancer (which would put pressure on the rubber), it grabs the inside. See how small it is?

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Unread 06-11-2014, 10:25 PM   #27
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Got pretty much everything pulled off. Still don't have the balancer off but will pretty soon. The power steering pump broke when i pulled off the hose, apparently the plastic inlet isn't all that tough, blah! Pulled the bumper off and broke the passenger side clip but the driver side clip is more or less intact. Still waiting for an engine hoist but looking like I'll be renting it still. I have a spare transmission that I was told has been rebuilt but not sure I'm going to put that in though I might put the new torque converter in there at least. Money is still funny.
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Unread 06-12-2014, 07:05 AM   #28
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Why not just get a remanufactured motor? I quit messing around with motors years ago.
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Why not just get a remanufactured motor? I quit messing around with motors years ago.
I agree, the more I look at this the more I keep thinking that you have unpleasant surprised ahead, id get a rebuilt or try to find a low mileage used motor. With all that sludge I really would try and get that block hot tanked, to clean it all out.
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Unread 06-13-2014, 10:30 PM   #30
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Thanks to jnicewan for the idea of getting free loaner tools! I got the Chrysler puller from Autozone and yeah they didn't know anything but they showed me pictures on their computer and I pointed it out. It was so easy taking off the balancer. I thought it would be much harder. It took some thinking though. I've seen this before on a different post but the puller doesn't seem to fully pull the puller off! I got around this by using the little bit pictured from my tool kit on top of the red box. This got it completely off effortlessly. Also it took me a moment to realize that you reverse the jaws to make it extend in further but that still wasn't enough without the little doodad improvisation that I came up with. So timing covers off. engine and trans unbolted. I actually moved the engine forward by hand so it doesnt weigh much but forgot to jack up the transmission . That said I've decided to go ahead with the bath and the shaved heads, then off to the rebuild part. I'll try to post in detail how I put the timing on for those that are unsure about it. I've never done it before but I've read the shop manual pretty good so it doesn't look too bad either. I'll post updates after I get it cleaned..
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