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Unread 04-08-2008, 06:40 AM   #1
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To street or not to street ?????????

So i am considering taking a perfectly good 4X4 and making it less useful what were the reasons that made some of you guys lower your jeeps? Other than it looking sweet that is. The reason that i am thinking is because it is my DD and i cant afford to be breaking stuff 4X4ing also don't have the cash to lift it Should i do it?



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Unread 04-08-2008, 07:55 AM   #2
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Most people with Jeeps Street them anyway, now don't think because it is street you won't spend money or possibly break it...it can happen especially when you start tinkering with your drivetrain for performance.....you don't have to lower it for it to be a street jeep....Keeps some meat on your rims and you can have the best of 1 world and a good bit of another LOL Whatever you decide good luck with it!!!! Nice start with whatever you decide!!!
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Unread 04-08-2008, 04:55 PM   #3
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So i am considering taking a perfectly good 4X4 and making it less useful what were the reasons that made some of you guys lower your jeeps? Other than it looking sweet that is. The reason that i am thinking is because it is my DD and i cant afford to be breaking stuff 4X4ing also don't have the cash to lift it Should i do it?
Most of us run stock height, so our Jeeps are every-bit-as-useful as any stock XJ. Some guys have lowered Jeeps through necessity; they simply cut their front coils to balance out their rear leaf sag.

Secondly. I really hate the term "street jeep". I have no idea why, but it makes people think we're a bunch of morons trying to ruin the XJs original intent. MOST of the guys here just want to improve our daily driver (a little more power, a bit more braking, better shocks, more light, a better stereo, etc...)



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Unread 04-08-2008, 04:56 PM   #4
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So are you saying you want to lower it?

My reasons for lowering it are.... ummm.....uhhh, it makes it look alot better, looks real good with a saggin rear end.. It seems like it handles alot better too....
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Unread 04-08-2008, 08:23 PM   #5
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I actually dont know if you should lower a 4wd, I dont know if the drivetrain will rub on anything in front. The rear will lower itself if your not lucky. I dont think flat leaves help it handle any better.
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Unread 04-08-2008, 09:36 PM   #6
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Keep the bump stops where they are and the drive train won't rub. Don't lower unless it is sagging to begin with.
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Unread 04-08-2008, 10:47 PM   #7
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thanks i dont think im gonna lower it any but i will get new rims something other than soft 8's iv had it for a year now and its only seen dirt or mud twice so i see no sense in lifting it or anything. what kind of lightbars look good on a stock height Cherokee. i need a home for some KC daylighters
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Unread 04-08-2008, 11:54 PM   #8
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Most of us run stock height, so our Jeeps are every-bit-as-useful as any stock XJ. Some guys have lowered Jeeps through necessity; they simply cut their front coils to balance out their rear leaf sag.

Secondly. I really hate the term "street jeep". I have no idea why, but it makes people think we're a bunch of morons trying to ruin the XJs original intent. MOST of the guys here just want to improve our daily driver (a little more power, a bit more braking, better shocks, more light, a better stereo, etc...)



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it is just a bad idea to lower an xj they are really just not made for it with the exception of leveling everyone seems to realy like the sway bars but what I am going to do is get some 2-3" front lifting springs and cut them so that the XJ is back at stock height and should get me a much stiffer front spring rate at least I think somebody disagree with me if you know why not I would like to be stoped before I do something stupid and waste any more money and for the rear someone mensioned fiberglass mono leafs and I checked it out and they seem to be a good idea I'm not sure though

yeah I don't like the term "street jeep" either it makes me think of bluballer's jeep and that is not my style I like the term "sport utility vehicle" much better(would have said sport suv but realized that sounded stupid) but "street jeep" does rhyme so I guess that is the reason we are called "street jeeps"

Most of the people on this forum don't want their XJ to be a street only vehicle they want to enhance the XJ's strong points while eliminating weaknesses like cornering (on the normal xj forum there is a guy who just tried to turn around and rolled his XJ so I would say that cornering is a major weak point)and lack of top end power (mostly do to areodynamics)

most of us want to still be able to drive off road but it is not our main goal. Most of us want a great daily driver one that is comfortable but can show some muscle when the time comes. We want to be able to tow our toys but have fun with our XJ when the twisty corners come.

there are extremists (like myself) who only want more power and handling ride quality be damned! and good looks are one of the last thing they think about or those who want to be surounded by luxury and could care less about 1/4 mile times

but most of us fall in the middle (I think) and would like an XJ with nice looking interior and be able to tear it up when the time comes so when I hear "street jeep" it is kind of like hearing "ricer" or "rat rod" and I am kind of insulted

I guess that I should have just said I agree with urban but I wanted to make it more clear well

sorry all for the long *** post but you should all know by now that I do that a lot anyway
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Unread 04-08-2008, 11:55 PM   #9
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thanks i dont think im gonna lower it any but i will get new rims something other than soft 8's iv had it for a year now and its only seen dirt or mud twice so i see no sense in lifting it or anything. what kind of lightbars look good on a stock height Cherokee. i need a home for some KC daylighters
how many KC's?

if it is not to many then you could just mount them on the bumper it would look pretty good IMO
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Unread 04-09-2008, 05:30 AM   #10
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yeah I don't like the term "street jeep" either it makes me think of bluballer's jeep and that is not my style I like the term "sport utility vehicle" much better(would have said sport suv but realized that sounded stupid) but "street jeep" does rhyme so I guess that is the reason we are called "street jeeps"

Most of the people on this forum don't want their XJ to be a street only vehicle they want to enhance the XJ's strong points while eliminating weaknesses like cornering (on the normal xj forum there is a guy who just tried to turn around and rolled his XJ so I would say that cornering is a major weak point)and lack of top end power (mostly do to areodynamics)
Its a Jeep, not an SUV. As for the guy that rolled it, he must have been doing something stupid.
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Unread 04-09-2008, 06:31 AM   #11
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just got 2 6in kc's... and 2 smaller lights i am going to try to fiberglass into the bumper. kinda going for the wrangler looking bumper im not sure how that guy rolled his he said he was doing a slow u turn and it upshifted makes no sense to me. sounds more like he gunned it when he was u turning i suppose excessive lifting and removing swaybars really makes something less useful. so instead of cutting front springs for leveling wouldn't it be better to fix the rear leafs? i think bluballers looks good... i dont plan on going to that extent but it looks good
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Unread 04-09-2008, 07:02 AM   #12
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Yes, fixing the sagging would be the ideal route.

Got a link to the roll? I can't seem to find it.
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Yes, fixing the sagging would be the ideal route.
x2. The reason I did what I did is because cutting the fronts is significantly cheaper ($0) compared to buying new leaf springs. (>$0)

kingofthehill, please use some punctuation. It would make my life much easier lol..
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Unread 04-09-2008, 08:52 AM   #14
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LOL A rose by any other name.....LOL You can call it what you want....
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x2. The reason I did what I did is because cutting the fronts is significantly cheaper ($0) compared to buying new leaf springs. (>$0)

kingofthehill, please use some punctuation. It would make my life much easier lol..
x2 on the cheaper part.. My jeep looked like hell with a low back and and a stock front end, so I chose the free route and lowered the front.. I have no regrets at all..
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