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Unread 11-20-2010, 09:41 PM   #1
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XJ project #2: The TwoFerOne Teen Jeep

So the dreaded day has come. My son turned 15 and 1/2 and got his driving permit.

So that means its time to get another XJ. One for him to drive but as long as my name is on the title, I plan on driving it a lot too. Since I already have one that's built, I'd love to keep this one stock, and very nice.

Unfortunately nobody wanted to sell me their mint-condition, low-mileage, garage-parked, never-offroad-driven, old-lady-owned XJ for $2,000 or less.

But I found this '97 Sport with 145,000 miles on Craigslist and bought it for $1500.





As you may have guessed it was driven by a teenager / college student which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But how about a "custom" interior?

I'll let you be the judge.







Notice anything missing in the above pics?

Along with various missing/broken trim peices, there's no stereo.

I should also show you the back:



Apparently, the jeep was broken into and the stereo was stolen. Not once either, but 4 times. The last time they took the whole rear corner panel and in the process just cut through the seatbelt. The trim panel for the liftgate was not stolen, but lost. How DO you lose that anyway?

So I figured I can replace all that crap. Replace the broken passenger side mirror, broken rear tail light, remove the stickers, and gradually turn it into a nice XJ again. Hopefully I could find a '97+ XJ that someone was parting out and I could get the interior peices from them. That was the plan anyway.

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Unread 11-20-2010, 09:46 PM   #2
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looks like an interesting project! why doesnt the son get a lifted xj? let me tell you, the ladies love a lifted xj
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Unread 11-20-2010, 09:47 PM   #3
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To the OP can't wait to see how this turns out. good luck
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Unread 11-20-2010, 10:12 PM   #4
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So the dreaded day has come. My son turned 15 and 1/2 and got his driving permit.

So I figured I can replace all that crap. Replace the broken passenger side mirror, broken rear tail light, remove the stickers, and gradually turn it into a nice XJ again. Hopefully I could find a '97+ XJ that someone was parting out and I could get the interior peices from them. That was the plan anyway.
Don't you mean, 'So I figured my son can get a job and get himself to the junkyard to find the missing parts, so he learns both how to work on his Jeep and to respect the value of paying his own way through life and putting his own efforts into his vehicles'?
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Unread 11-20-2010, 10:13 PM   #5
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So mechanically it checked out on the test drive. Plenty of get up and go, steering good, brakes so-so but could be better, no driveline vibes, 4wd works, oil looked good, engine mounts good, etc. Underneath oil pan was wet, but what jeep doesn't leak a little oil, right? Transmission pan has small but noticeable dent, but otherwise doesn't look like it was tore up off-road.

They made it a point to tell me they just had the lower radiator hose replaced that morning... I made sure to ask if it had ever overheated and they said no. Overall a reliable vehicle, so they said.

When I went to pick it up they had a big file full of maintenance receipts, mostly from Jiffy-Lube type places. So I figured I guess this is a good sign that it was maintenanced, even if it was Jiffy-Lube.

So I get it home and I think it sat for a day or two and the next time I take it for a drive the check engine light comes on. WTF? Autozone tells me its a cylinder missfire. No problem - we replaced the plugs and fixed that.

Then the next day I notice coolant under the jeep. hmmm.... they just replaced the lower radiator hose.... not a good sign. Turns out it was the water pump going out. They ended up spending $214.95 replacing a lower radiator hose, when that wasn't even the problem!!!

So I spent $120 and replaced:
water pump
thermostat
upper and lower radiator hoses
both heater hoses

I figured I may as well do those other things while I'm in there as preventative maintenance.

So then one night I had some time to sit down and go through the maintenance records. Other than regular maintenance type stuff I found there were some other problems:

check engine light (O2 sensor replaced) x2
check engine light (IAC motor replaced)
check engine light (NSS replaced)
door locks defective (door rods replaced)
rear brakes replaced due to damage
serp belt replaced twice
e-brake lever defective (replaced/repaired)
oil pan gasket leak (oil was two-quarts low!)
cracked exhaust manifold (replaced)

Funny they never mentioned any of that when I bought it, and that's why I tend not to like buying other people's used junk.

Hopefully a little TLC and it will be nice to us.

More to come...
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Unread 11-20-2010, 10:17 PM   #6
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Glad to see you starting a thread for this Eric.
Oh and to give you a heads up, this rig wont be stock by the time your done with it no matter how much you want it to be :haha:
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Unread 11-20-2010, 10:27 PM   #7
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looks like an interesting project! why doesnt the son get a lifted xj? let me tell you, the ladies love a lifted xj
Well I already have a lifted one, and honestly would like to have a stock one. Honestly I can't afford two lifted ones either.

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Don't you mean, 'So I figured my son can get a job and get himself to the junkyard to find the missing parts, so he learns both how to work on his Jeep and to respect the value of paying his own way through life and putting his own efforts into his vehicles'?
I appreciate the comment. Yes he is doing a lot of the work. He already removed most of the stickers from the body, which was no small task let me tell you! He wants to keep the Transformers one over the gas door and that's okay. He replaced the rear tail light (I provided the spare). He also got his hands dirty with replacing the spark plugs and water pump repair. This will be a learning project for him - but we will be doing it together. But since I will be driving it a lot too, especially over the winter, I don't expect him to fund the repairs at this point. But he will be putting in the hours with me.
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Unread 11-20-2010, 10:47 PM   #8
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nice. lol i would so put that vial/beeker graphic on mine
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Unread 11-21-2010, 12:56 AM   #9
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check engine light (O2 sensor replaced) x2
check engine light (IAC motor replaced)
check engine light (NSS replaced)
door locks defective (door rods replaced)
rear brakes replaced due to damage
serp belt replaced twice
e-brake lever defective (replaced/repaired)
oil pan gasket leak (oil was two-quarts low!)
cracked exhaust manifold (replaced)

Most of these look like either maintenence or incompetent diagnosis. I wonder how many of the check engine lights were really due to the cracked manifold? Cracked exhaust manifold.... heck, if it didn't have that, it might not really be a 4.0!!!!


And glad to see the next generation learning it 'right'... I strongly feel if you want to own an offroad vehicle and take it offroad... you better know how to turn your wrenches, since the mechanic's shop ain't gonna come to you!
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Unread 11-21-2010, 09:33 AM   #10
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Looks like a good project, good call on getting your son an XJ as a first vehicle. I think all those stickers on the sides make for a good excuse to give it an awesome paint job.
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Unread 11-21-2010, 10:08 AM   #11
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The interior reminds me of the Nintendo Wii...
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Unread 11-21-2010, 10:12 AM   #12
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so would a 97 have that steering wheel VS the later one?

PS I woulda bought it too, but then I am an optimist
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Thats so true.
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But since I will be driving it a lot too, especially over the winter, I don't expect him to fund the repairs at this point. But he will be putting in the hours with me.
Wow, I wish my dad had this mentality, but I think he is still a little afraid of my xj haha. He did teach me almost everything I know about cars though (I'm 18 now) so I'm not afraid to take a wrench to my jeep
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Unread 11-21-2010, 07:49 PM   #15
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Here's the "TwoFerOne" part...

I found another XJ. This one was totalled in a wreck and the owner didn't want to part it out so I bought the whole thing for $500.





This one is also a '97 with manual windows so the door panels will be a direct swap. The kicker is the interior is tan and black, instead of agate (gray) that ours is. But we can swap everything from the carpet to the headliner. There might be some other parts we can use too, like the side mirror and stereo. The tires are brand new but are 30 X 9.50's. Not sure yet if the tire on the damaged side is still good or not.
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