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Unread 01-15-2014, 08:40 PM   #1
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Witch lift kit should I choose!?

I'm new to this forum but whenever I have a question, this forum always answers it! So I want to put a Lift kit on my 00 xj, I have one kit picked out but I am not sure if it's the best for me. I am looking at a rough country 4.5 x series suspension lift, it's on the cheaper side and will add a couple inches to my jeep and yes I am a off-roader and put my stock xj through its paces. Now I would like to be able to haul cars such as a 240sx witch weighs in around 2.5-3 thousand pounds and another 1-1.5 thousand pound Trailer witch all come to around 4.5. (Will have transmission cooler, trailer brakes). So is there something I need to look out for? Adding leafs to the lift kit? Anything will help me out! Thanks!

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Unread 01-16-2014, 04:23 PM   #2
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A regear may be necessary if your going with bigger tires the 3:55 gears are dogs with 33"tires.
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Unread 01-16-2014, 04:30 PM   #3
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A regear may be necessary if your going with bigger tires the 3:55 gears are dogs with 33"tires.
Alright that sounds good and doable!
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Unread 01-18-2014, 04:56 PM   #4
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I would personally not tow a car with an XJ. Lets say 4500lbs. Car haulers are all tongue heavy when loaded, worse if you don't back on. The short wheel base is terrible for tongue weight, steering will feel floaty, it'll feel under powered. And remember, you'll need a WDH (weight distribution hitch).
You'll be in for around 700lbs of tongue weight at least. So you could be at or over your GVWR. (Only important if you want to stay in the law, if you are in an accident, and it is determined you are over your GVWR you will be at fault even when you are not, and injuries could be criminal negligence) So keep that in mind.
If you are running surge brakes on the trailer you will be pushed all over the place, not that you will have much steering anyways. Electronic brakes with a controller would sure help. But the brakes on the XJ suck as is. And over using the trailer brakes is dangerous too.

And as mentioned you will probably have to regear, but it'll still put a lot of strain to pull that trailer. At least there isn't much frontal area with a car hauler to add a lot of drag.
I have pulled 3400lbs with my XJ once, it was terrible.
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x2 on towing

XJs are horribly over rated for towing capacity and can't realistically control a trailer with a car on it. Get a full size truck if you want to tow cars and it gives you the ability to tow your XJ to trails as well which is nice because you don't have to worry about getting home if you break **** on the trail.
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x3 I would not use an XJ as a car hauler.
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went and picked up a project XJ with my buddies stock XJ using a car dolly no issues!
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went and picked up a project XJ with my buddies stock XJ using a car dolly no issues!
How far was it towed and over what kind of terrain?
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went and picked up a project XJ with my buddies stock XJ using a car dolly no issues!
You are also using a dolly.... not a flat deck car hauler. A dolly should have almost no tongue weight.

Also a lot of people always say the XJ tows fine but have no real towing experience to compare to.
My XJ towed my quad and small trailer fine, but it was under 100lbs tongue weight, and about 1100lbs total.

Tow that xj with a 1/2 ton even and compare how well the vehicles stop and handle hills.
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I would personally not tow a car with an XJ. Lets say 4500lbs. Car haulers are all tongue heavy when loaded, worse if you don't back on. The short wheel base is terrible for tongue weight, steering will feel floaty, it'll feel under powered. And remember, you'll need a WDH (weight distribution hitch). You'll be in for around 700lbs of tongue weight at least. So you could be at or over your GVWR. (Only important if you want to stay in the law, if you are in an accident, and it is determined you are over your GVWR you will be at fault even when you are not, and injuries could be criminal negligence) So keep that in mind. If you are running surge brakes on the trailer you will be pushed all over the place, not that you will have much steering anyways. Electronic brakes with a controller would sure help. But the brakes on the XJ suck as is. And over using the trailer brakes is dangerous too. And as mentioned you will probably have to regear, but it'll still put a lot of strain to pull that trailer. At least there isn't much frontal area with a car hauler to add a lot of drag. I have pulled 3400lbs with my XJ once, it was terrible.
My dad used to pull a 23 foot bay liner with my moms 99 xj all the time and I know it had to weigh at least 3000 including trailer and it would also pull it out of the ramp with no problems at all.
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x2 on towing XJs are horribly over rated for towing capacity and can't realistically control a trailer with a car on it. Get a full size truck if you want to tow cars and it gives you the ability to tow your XJ to trails as well which is nice because you don't have to worry about getting home if you break **** on the trail.
I do, 2010 ram 1500. Soon going to be upgrading to a 2500. But thanks for the info!
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Unread 01-19-2014, 04:39 PM   #12
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You are also using a dolly.... not a flat deck car hauler. A dolly should have almost no tongue weight. Also a lot of people always say the XJ tows fine but have no real towing experience to compare to. My XJ towed my quad and small trailer fine, but it was under 100lbs tongue weight, and about 1100lbs total. Tow that xj with a 1/2 ton even and compare how well the vehicles stop and handle hills.
I have pulled my atv and trailer also and it did fine. And a Car dolly is an option too.
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My dad used to pull a 23 foot bay liner with my moms 99 xj all the time and I know it had to weigh at least 3000 including trailer and it would also pull it out of the ramp with no problems at all.
My dad used to pull a 23' glasstron outboard with a 97 mercury mystique. It was probably 4k lbs.
Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.
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My dad used to pull a 23' glasstron outboard with a 97 mercury mystique. It was probably 4k lbs. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.
right I understand
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