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Unread 07-06-2014, 08:38 PM   #1
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will XJ do the job?

for my application.....

current needs: Primarily I need a 5 passenger vehicle to get to my cabin. I bought a new RAM 3500 and do not want to beat it down on this road.

What it needs to do: get up the hill to the cabin (I know any 4wd will do this pretty much), but also need to do it every time with a small trailer full of equipment (call it 1500# total) and MOST IMPORTANTLY: haul 300 gallons of water up there a few times a year. With trailer this is likely 4K#'ish..... It is roughly 1.5 miles of tight aspen stand trail with some pretty steep grades.

The trail is not too bad, my Duramax did it without breaking a sweat with the water trailer (but it was lifted with mud terrains and edge with attitude so twice the HP and 3 times the TQ of a Cherokee). I have a Polaris Ranger for true hunting vehicle so that part is not needed too bad. Came from wheeling a lifted, locked, caged 1st gen K5 years ago and know absolutely squat about jeeps.

looking for a vehicle to leave up there at the bottom of the hill that I can rely on and have some fun in, maybe some Moab trips.....

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Unread 07-06-2014, 10:27 PM   #2
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Yes it will. You do not need to spend much if any money to make an XJ very capable let alone able to do the work you described.

In 4WD with decent tires you will have no issues what so ever. Towing 1500lb is not much work for a 4.o L.
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Unread 07-06-2014, 10:41 PM   #3
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The 4.0HO is a very capable vehicle with a towing capacity of just over 6,000lbs. This is what it is capable of pulling on a 12% grade on tarmac in Hi range and is considered safe on highway.

Off road and on trails you can use low range 4x4 and then it is really all about terrain, grade, tyres and weight over the axles as to whether it will pull or just spin the wheels.

Sounds like a fairly easy pull for a Cherokee.
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just to clarify: more concerned about the water hauling. 325 gallons is 3400# give or take, tank is probably 100#, trailer...? easily 4,000 total lbs though, and water is a PITA, it will jerk your vehicle around on a rough road.
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When hauling the water up and down the hills will be the only issues. But I'd still say stock with sick tires would get you. The water is a live load and will suck since it weighs more than the cherokee. I'd probably use an airbag in the rear for that. Or a weight distribution hitch.
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Unread 07-07-2014, 08:59 AM   #6
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Except for the 5 passenger requirement the XJ will do the Job. The water tank is also going to be sketchy. Not that the XJ cant drag the load all day long. BUT since that sloshing load weighs as much as the pull rig, it won't be comfortable.
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Unread 07-07-2014, 09:30 AM   #7
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at least two of the five will be kids....

I can handle an uncomfortable 20 min ride 3 times a year, just want to make sure it's not going to tear anything up on the XJ.
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Unread 07-12-2014, 05:49 AM   #8
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Going on experience here.... market value on the second gen Durangos has CRASHED and a decent mile Hemi model can be found for not much more than a clean high mileage XJ. My 2005 is a 2WD Hemi Limited with only 70k which is why I bought my XJ.... I needed 4x4 on occasion and the only other option was to trade the Durango in which case there was no way that I could find something in its condition that could do everything it could do plus have 4WD for anywhere NEAR what I would be able to get out of it. So, I kept the Durango for hauling/towing/trips and got the XJ for when I needed 4WD. I had it fully loaded inside and towed 6000 lbs for 400 miles over Christmas last year and got 12mpg for the trip. Towed an XJ on a 2000lb trailer a few months ago and got 14mpg.

Actually re-read your post and you also want something for offroad fun. Forget I said anything.
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Does the water trailer have an anti slosh system? Like baffles or anything? That will make a hugenormous difference.
But everything else sounds ok.
I might also go with the airbags and it the weight distribution hitch system.
The xj's biggest weakness in trailering is braking. Trailer brakes are great. Maybe disc conversion rear.
Also, my only last concern would be the rear axle. Try to get an xj with the 8.25 rear.
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Yes it will. You do not need to spend much if any money to make an XJ very capable let alone able to do the work you described.

In 4WD with decent tires you will have no issues what so ever. Towing 1500lb is not much work for a 4.o L.
He's not towing 1,500 lbs. He's towing a 1,500 lb trails and 2,503 lbs of water.
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