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Unread 09-29-2009, 07:54 AM   #31
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One theory that I heard was that they are unable to be balanced, causing the wheel to wobble at high speeds and cause potential damage to your vehicle. Again this is only a theory that I heard no hard evidence at all.

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Unread 09-29-2009, 10:02 AM   #32
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you can put stick on weights on anything, or crimp on weights on the inner lip.
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Unread 09-29-2009, 12:45 PM   #33
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i was told that beadlocks were illegal because they require a person to check the bolts from time to time. Since they have to be monitored, there becomes a hazard if a person does not do their job and make sure the locking ring is god and tight. Now my argument to this is: what about all the ricers and beemer guys running a true 3 peice wheel? The outer hoop just bolts the the rim face, and if not monitored, the rim could potientially come loose giving you the same results as a beadlock... This is just what I heard from a cop friend. The same cop friend that said "Just run um' noody knows what they are anyway
You have to monitor regular wheels too. Most people dont, but you should check your tire pressure constantly as well as ensure your lug nuts are tight.

Remember back when Firestone and Ford had issues with tires on Exploders failing at high speeds when they had low tire pressure? Those people should have checked their tires, but obviously didnt.
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One theory that I heard was that they are unable to be balanced, causing the wheel to wobble at high speeds and cause potential damage to your vehicle. Again this is only a theory that I heard no hard evidence at all.
There are many people who travel at high rates of speed with single and double bead locks and dont have issues with balancing. Baja racing, and KOH come to mind. Trophy trucks get well into the triple digits. I think people in this last year at KOH got into the triple digits as well.

If you have issues, internally balance them.
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Unread 09-29-2009, 06:35 PM   #34
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Apparently I was told because if you run over a spike strip or your tires get shot out the tire wont fall off the rim,. thats what my neighbor cop said
that doesn't make much sense cause the tire will shred anyways
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Unread 09-29-2009, 08:26 PM   #35
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that doesn't make much sense cause the tire will shred anyways
apparently his neighbor cop sucks at common sense
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Unread 09-29-2009, 09:14 PM   #36
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So what youre saying is that the code doesnt say beadlocks are specifically illegal, so therefor they are legal? Makes sense to me.

I also did not know you do this stuff for a living. I take it you are an officer somewhere. My Jeep resides in Cali, so if I ever get pulled over, an officer knows what beadlocks are, and considers them illegal, Im calling you
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
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Unread 09-29-2009, 09:31 PM   #37
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The reason most beadlocks are not DOT compliant is the lip of the wheel where the tire seats is supposed to be a certain profile to according to the tire manufacture. The tire is designed to seat on this profile and when cross sectioned the wheel does not meet that due to the fact that is is 2 pieces on the outer lip. The 3 piece beadlocks made by Hutchinson are DOT compliant because they have the correct profile on the outer rim and the bead lock is an internal ring that clamps the tire to the outer bead when the wheel is put together.

The issue of legality would be up to the states laws regarding aftermarket equipment used on road that is not DOT compliant. There are millions of little things that a cop can write you for just to be a jerk. Your attitude may help you in a traffic stop. It would take sombody with an attitude on either side of the stop to really get a ticket for it. If you are cited for it make sure you are cited for an exact section of the traffic code. that way you can reference it in court.
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Unread 10-26-2009, 11:47 AM   #38
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Bead Locks Illegal?

My local (Nevada) Big-O dealer informed me today that bead locks were not legal for the street. This peaked my curiosity and I started searching, results were a mixed bag.

So I did a keyword statutes (State laws) search for Nevada, California and Oregon, interestingly "bead locks", "beadlocks", "bead lock" or "beadlock" does not appear anywhere in the laws of these 3 states.

Next I did a keyword search for Federal DOT regulations and found "bead locks", but the only mention was they are required for aviation fire trucks.

My conclusion is this is another "the sky is falling" topic for people who can't sleep and spend too much time on their computer!
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Unread 10-26-2009, 02:26 PM   #39
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My local (Nevada) Big-O dealer informed me today that bead locks were not legal for the street. This peaked my curiosity and I started searching, results were a mixed bag.

So I did a keyword statutes (State laws) search for Nevada, California and Oregon, interestingly "bead locks", "beadlocks", "bead lock" or "beadlock" does not appear anywhere in the laws of these 3 states.

Next I did a keyword search for Federal DOT regulations and found "bead locks", but the only mention was they are required for aviation fire trucks.

My conclusion is this is another "the sky is falling" topic for people who can't sleep and spend too much time on their computer!
Big O probably stated they were illegal so they wouldnt have to mount the tires on beadlocks as well as liability.

They are a ***** and a half to get them mounted. Buy the tires, and mount them yourself on your new beadlocks.
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Unread 10-26-2009, 10:36 PM   #40
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but the guy at big-o said they were not illegal Starboard, I think you misread that.
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Unread 10-27-2009, 07:34 AM   #41
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but the guy at big-o said they were not illegal Starboard, I think you misread that.
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as in illegal.

I misread it the first time over, I guess you misread it too.
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Unread 10-27-2009, 04:34 PM   #42
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ah holy poop, How did I read it like that?

anyway, I think its some bull crap and that you should run them, anyway.
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Unread 10-27-2009, 08:21 PM   #43
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i probably will, when i get the money. still have to order lift, tires, rims, snorkel
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Unread 04-11-2010, 10:30 AM   #44
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There is so much bad information in this thread on the legalities of bead lock wheels that it's not even funny. The DOT does not approve any bead lockwheels and wheels that are marketed as "DOT approved" are simply misleading people. Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but another thread linked to it.

Here's a letter from the DOT replying to an individual who asked for a clariification on whether the DOT had a position on the legalities of bead lock wheels on the street.

And so far, to the best of my knowledge, no one (!) has come up with a specific state law that specifically says bead lock wheels are illegal. Certainly the DOT doesn't care as evidenced by their letter, a copy of which is below...

"Dear Mr. Cxxxxxxxx,

I received this message from NHTSA this morning:

There are no performance or design requirements for rims covered under Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 120. However, there are rim marking requirements in S5.2 and rim selection requirements in S5.3.2. Note that in S5.2, a reference is made to rims of multi-piece construction, and this implies that these multi-piece rims are allowed. The bead lock rim appears to be a multi-piece rim and there is nothing that I’m aware of that would prohibit them from being used for on-road vehicles. I have attached a copy of the standard. It may be that some State DOTs are regulating them.

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cause they can leak air and you can have a tire malfunction on the highway
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