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Unread 06-02-2013, 07:36 AM   #16
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as far as i know, there were only three motors offered in xj's: 2.5l 4 cyl( i know they were used at least to 95), early models had a 2.8 v6 chevy motor, then the 4.0l 6 cyl. zj's: 4.0 was the smallest, then they had a 5.2 v8(318 ci?) and for one year even had a 5.9 v8(360 ci?) the wj was the next model grand(that is where they went from one big, usually dull or yellow, headlight on each side to a more rounded double style. i think they also had an option for a 4.7 v8, but don't quote me on that. the zj and wj both have a lot of creature comforts to them and run down the interstate a little better then the xj, but the zj's have a lot of electrical gremlins that will pop there head up and make the lights do stupid things. xj's are generally cheaper and have a ton more aftermarket support.
XJs also had a 2.1 diesel in the early years.

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Unread 06-02-2013, 08:13 AM   #17
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He was asking about NEW vehicles. I think that he meant that all Cherokees are Grand Cherokees because they weren't making the Cherokee anymore, but they are bringing back the Cherokee in 2014.
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Unread 06-02-2013, 12:42 PM   #18
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He was asking about NEW vehicles. I think that he meant that all Cherokees are Grand Cherokees because they weren't making the Cherokee anymore, but they are bringing back the Cherokee in 2014.
That THING they're calling a Cherokee is an abomination.
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Unread 06-02-2013, 02:39 PM   #19
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That THING they're calling a Cherokee is an abomination.
I know! It looks terrible. I always say that Jeep is about American heritage. Killing the head lights and classic grill is killing Jeep.
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Unread 06-02-2013, 11:17 PM   #20
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Yeah, that 2014 thing is NOT a Cherokee, no matter what you call it. The first thing I did when I saw a photo of it, I emailed Jeep and told them that if they did call it a Cherokee, that they'd piss off a LOT of die-hard Cherokee fans. That thing is just plain ol' FUGGLY.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 08:39 PM   #21
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fugly '14 cherokee

do sub contract work for the big 3 job shops and had the misfortune of working on one of these turds. told everyone within earshot that this bastard child was NOT a cherokee and who the hell names this crap? a guy came walking over and all the shop guys scattered. he started asking me why i thought it didn't deserve to be called a cherokee. i then proceeded to give a laundry list of reasons why from the turd engine to the useless awd sissy crap transfer case to the lack of ground clearance to the weinie axle's etc. he then told me about all these offroad tests that they had put this thing thru and how it had beat out full size 4x4's and would go place's where other 4x4s would be afraid to go. i said bulls%*t! you got a small berm behind the building that pos would have a hard time climbing let alone crossing over without getting hung up. well he said he was gonna prove me wrong and told the guys to pull it out back and wait for him. big shot jumps in and tries to cross this small hill (about 4' tall and 6' wide at the base) and hangs it up! laughing my *** off i tell him i'll go get my'97 to pull him back to this side. i then proceed to cross over same hill in 2wd forward and reverse to show him what a REAL cherokee is. come to find out he is the lead designer on that platform and was not pleased with my calling him out. have heard whispers that they may be re-thinking using the cherokee name but it is all hearsay...
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Unread 06-03-2013, 08:59 PM   #22
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You are my hero today. This is now a thread where we talk **** about the new "Jeeps" or Mecedes as I like to call them.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 09:00 PM   #23
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You are my hero today. This is now a thread where we talk **** about the new "Jeeps" or Mecedes as I like to call them.
Well actualy Fiat's.... Worthless Italian crap cars. I can't wait to see what they do to the wrangler.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 09:10 PM   #24
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Oh you havent seen the new ones? I heard FIAT got Jeep I choose to ignore it.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 09:26 PM   #25
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Oh you havent seen the new ones? I heard FIAT got Jeep I choose to ignore it.
As far as I knew they haven't released the redesign of the wrangler yet.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 09:42 PM   #26
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I was mistaken but here is my logic behind calling them 'Mercedes'

"At one time Mercedes did own Chrysler from 1998 to 2007 when it sold it interest to a private equity firm in New York."
And now Fiat. What is happening to our beloved 4x4s... traded like simple baseball cards to the highest bidder
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Unread 06-03-2013, 09:44 PM   #27
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Also my "AH HAHAHAHAHAA" Inserted here

"-> Mercedes never owned over 49 % of Chrysler, but unfortunately Fiat now owns 51 %. So they are destroying the name Chrysler and Dodge in Europe and sell Chryslers as Lancias (cars with a very very very bad reputation in Europe and only bought by Italians) "

Lancia's were never good to begin with. Anyone want to start a pool on who buys Chrysler/Dodge next?
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Unread 06-08-2013, 04:33 AM   #28
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Also my "AH HAHAHAHAHAA" Inserted here

"-> Mercedes never owned over 49 % of Chrysler, but unfortunately Fiat now owns 51 %. So they are destroying the name Chrysler and Dodge in Europe and sell Chryslers as Lancias (cars with a very very very bad reputation in Europe and only bought by Italians) "

Lancia's were never good to begin with. Anyone want to start a pool on who buys Chrysler/Dodge next?
Technically is was a merger between AG-Daimler (Mercedes) and DaimlerChrysler. Wasn't a good move for Mercedes which was publicly stated by Mercedes.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 05:53 AM   #29
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do sub contract work for the big 3 job shops and had the misfortune of working on one of these turds. told everyone within earshot that this bastard child was NOT a cherokee and who the hell names this crap? a guy came walking over and all the shop guys scattered. he started asking me why i thought it didn't deserve to be called a cherokee. i then proceeded to give a laundry list of reasons why from the turd engine to the useless awd sissy crap transfer case to the lack of ground clearance to the weinie axle's etc. he then told me about all these offroad tests that they had put this thing thru and how it had beat out full size 4x4's and would go place's where other 4x4s would be afraid to go. i said bulls%*t! you got a small berm behind the building that pos would have a hard time climbing let alone crossing over without getting hung up. well he said he was gonna prove me wrong and told the guys to pull it out back and wait for him. big shot jumps in and tries to cross this small hill (about 4' tall and 6' wide at the base) and hangs it up! laughing my *** off i tell him i'll go get my'97 to pull him back to this side. i then proceed to cross over same hill in 2wd forward and reverse to show him what a REAL cherokee is. come to find out he is the lead designer on that platform and was not pleased with my calling him out. have heard whispers that they may be re-thinking using the cherokee name but it is all hearsay...
You, sir, should be hailed as a hero. Even if Jeep continues with their ludicrous idea of calling it a Cherokee, I will forever remember that at least someone, somewhere, stood up for the Cherokee name and did not back down in the face of arrogance and stupidity. I am impressed that you were actually able to state your case to this guy AND he let you show him up! Kudos, sir.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 09:11 AM   #30
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I bet they'll call the 2014 cherokee the "2014 Cherokee NAJ"... Not A Jeep
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