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post #481 of 2859 Old 06-13-2013, 05:10 PM Thread Starter
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Theres work to be done:




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post #482 of 2859 Old 06-14-2013, 06:13 AM
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Theres work to be done:
I approve
Iro tie rod?

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post #483 of 2859 Old 06-14-2013, 06:29 AM Thread Starter
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^yep.

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post #484 of 2859 Old 06-14-2013, 06:51 AM
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^yep.
Mint
Mash it for me let me know what you think

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post #485 of 2859 Old 06-14-2013, 07:06 AM Thread Starter
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Mint
Mash it for me let me know what you think

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It will be put to the test next weekend for sure!

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post #486 of 2859 Old 06-14-2013, 07:11 AM
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It will be put to the test next weekend for sure!
Does it take the stock tres if so I'd grab a few for spares

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post #487 of 2859 Old 06-14-2013, 07:21 AM Thread Starter
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Does it take the stock tres if so I'd grab a few for spares

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Yea it does. Technically makes the TRE's the weak point but Id rather that be the "fuse" in the setup. I have spares and thats an easy trail fix. Much easier than trying to straighten a mangled factory rod lol

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post #488 of 2859 Old 06-15-2013, 03:54 PM Thread Starter
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Well, today is the day I tackle something Ive been puttin off for a while, unibody rail repair. Im halfway done but am taking a beer break before I burn anything in.

For safetys sake, I pulled the tank. Went super smooth, and I manhandled it out with no problems. Note the shadetree mechanic status I got going on, doin it all on my back porch slab like a boss.


With no tank in the way, my view and peace of mind is much better, on the pass side rail near the bumpstop you can see my problem.

Inside the rail:

Outside (yikes):


Im still a little unsure how this spot got so much rust, the rest of the Jeep is very solid. My last '99 had rot in the same area, strange. Either way its gotta come out, so starting with the outside rail I cut out the rust on that side and grinded down to metal around it where the new 3/16" plate will be burned in. As u can see in the pic, I had original made incisions to cut a rectangle out but realized most of that metal is still good so I went with a trapezoid.


Thats where Im at for now. Ive precut the 3/16 plate to run about 15 inches down the rail, and contoured it to the slight bend. Plan is to burn it in on the outside, then weld it from the inside of the rail before I do the inside plate. Then after doing that I will cap it together with bottom plate and call it good.

Ill update this later on once I get more progress in.

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Despite my welder acting up and burning through the rail at one point, I got the outer plate burned in nice and solid. Tomorrow morning I will finish up plating the inside and bottom of the rail. Its already greatly improved the areas rigidity, I could flex the whole rail prior to this.



After that was done, I took the time to violently remove a mole or two from my property.

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post #490 of 2859 Old 06-16-2013, 11:26 AM
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Looks good man!

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Looks good man!
Thanks man! Its funny how the first half of the build was mostly cosmetic stuff and now for the most part I wont buy/do anything to the Jeep if it doesnt help me on the trail in someway.

I still need work on making my welds pretty lol, they always look so good on the bench but when I started burning the steel onto the Jeep it didnt turn out as well. But its all solid as can be so ohh well. Still not bad for a small 110 stick welder.

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Thanks man! Its funny how the first half of the build was mostly cosmetic stuff and now for the most part I wont buy/do anything to the Jeep if it doesnt help me on the trail in someway.

I still need work on making my welds pretty lol, they always look so good on the bench but when I started burning the steel onto the Jeep it didnt turn out as well. But its all solid as can be so ohh well. Still not bad for a small 110 stick welder.
Its crazy how that **** works once you start wheelin.
As for welding try to get as close and as comfortable as you can. Practice on the bench welding the same way you would on the jeep (vertical, upside down, etc). What kinda arc are you using?

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Thanks man! Its funny how the first half of the build was mostly cosmetic stuff and now for the most part I wont buy/do anything to the Jeep if it doesnt help me on the trail in someway.

I still need work on making my welds pretty lol, they always look so good on the bench but when I started burning the steel onto the Jeep it didnt turn out as well. But its all solid as can be so ohh well. Still not bad for a small 110 stick welder.
2 things 1 your right
2 **** you you cursed my tie rod so it bent haha

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post #494 of 2859 Old 06-16-2013, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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Its crazy how that **** works once you start wheelin.
As for welding try to get as close and as comfortable as you can. Practice on the bench welding the same way you would on the jeep (vertical, upside down, etc). What kinda arc are you using?
****ty Harbor Freight special run reverse polarity DC for the 6011 rods. Tinkered with a lot of settings til I found a sweet spot. My biggest problem I think is being able to maintain a good arc length and angle in awkward positions.

That and I really need a 220 connection out here, Im used to welding on a much bigger unit but I picked up my lil 110v job to do odd things around the house, its been great for a wide variety of things but it has been VERY inconsistent during this whole process. There was a couple instances where it would have a weak arc and stick the rod, then moments later it would pick up and practically blast through the rail. All with no settings touched. First time it has done that.

Going to try and build a garage in the next year and have me a nice hosscat of a welder for my duties then. For now though Im moving on with what Ive got. Went ahead and cut out the rotted inside edge of the rail, although it was about to come out on its own, heres one piece that stayed together.



Now that Ive got that opened up, I plan to also weld that outer plate from the inside of the rail before I cap everything off.


I also believe I will leave a hole in the bottom plating for drainage. Ive had 3 XJ's now that have had rust in this same spot, 2 of which were totally solid otherwise. No signs of rear end collision. I can only assume water getting trapped there plus exhaust heat has caused this over time. Once its buttoned up I plan to pump ATF in the rails from time to time to help prevent future issues with corrosion. I HATE RUST, and the unibody thing makes me fear it even more.

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2 things 1 your right
2 **** you you cursed my tie rod so it bent haha

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Haha oooppss my bad. Upgrade time!

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