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post #16 of 19 Old 08-02-2008, 11:53 PM
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The beauty of our judicial system is our ability as defendants to fight our case. Many times if you go in with a well prepared case you will get the benefit of the doubt. I had an 81 in a 65, I constructed my case around the improper equipment, and the calibration of speedometers. After coming up with evidence that proves your speedometer does vary with your tires size I decided my case was fair enough. I took it to the judge without a lawyer. The ticket got dismissed. Stand up for yourself, don't belly up just because it is the law. If some people can get away with murder I better be damn sure I can get out of a speeding ticket.

To the OP, If you can find a shop near by with a dyno, they will be able to analyze the true difference between actual and gauge speed.

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post #17 of 19 Old 08-04-2008, 12:34 PM
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Years ago was running 33s. Speedo was way off and I knew it. Didn't have the money to regear just then. Went to a shop for a speedo calibration and got the paperwork from them showing the speedo was off. Originally I was running 36s and knew the speedo was waaaay off then.

Anywhooo, I went to court with the paperwork from the shop. I explained to the judge that I had been previously been running 36s but changed them since it affected the accuracy of the speedometer so much. I dropped down to the 33s which I thought corrected the problem. Apparently it didn't ( I knew that). I submitted the paperwork that showed proof of my attempt to identify the cause of the problem and asked for probation before judgement (PBJ). The judge looked at the evidence I had submitted and granted my request. I had no court cost and maintained a clean record until the probation was over.

Don't try to out right lie. Be as honest as can be. Make an effort to indentify the cause and what you'll have to do to fix the probelm.....ie, spend a little money.
Ask for probation
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post #18 of 19 Old 08-04-2008, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Skimsucka View Post
Would it be a good idea to say after the incident i had taken car to a mechanic that inspected and fixed speedometer and to pleed guilty
dont lie to Da Judge. say that and he will ask for the receipt showing the repair. if you dont provide it expect No Mercy. although you might be able to say a friend fixed it but I dunno. as scavengerj mentions, documentation is the key. ask me how I know, documentation has saved me big in court.

your larger tires (235 vs 215 or 225 stock) will cause your speedo to be off (read lower than your actual speed).

just plead guilty and ask for a reduction if your record is otherwise clean (the DMV report is a great idea BTW).

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post #19 of 19 Old 08-04-2008, 01:28 PM
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Or the problem is cops writing BS tickets so they look good when it's time for a "performance review" (aka "just like a ticket quota, but we can't call them that anymore").
How is it a "BS ticket" when the person violated posted speed limits inside a park? I'm a police officer, and me writing tickets has NOTHING to do with a "performance review" and I doubt it does anywhere. Writing tickets generates very little if any revenue for most police departments.

To the OP:
You broke the law, knew your equipment was defective, and so man up and pay the fine. If you want, try and plead it out to a lesser charge or go pre-trial diversion or get a deferal. Quit wasting the courts time, the officers time, and my tax money on BS.

ahhhh th judge is a friends father that lives right next to state park and surfs as do i so im sur he will be on myside
Oh, so the Judge will violate ethics and probably the law by giving you leniancy since he knows you? That's not only immoral, but against his oath.

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