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post #1 of 19 Old 08-02-2008, 12:29 PM Thread Starter
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Tire size Speed COURT

Hi guys havent been on in awhile anyway i had gotten a speeding ticket in a state park officer says i was doing 35 in a 25 which im not sure because this is my problem since i bought my cherokee speedometer originally jumpped up with gaining speed then became smooth increasing speed but has been 9mph off ever since could the 275-35-15's be the reason instead of the called for tire
this is the case ill be bringing to the judge lol any info on tire or bad speedo cable or somethin is appreciated thanks so much


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post #2 of 19 Old 08-02-2008, 12:45 PM
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Ok so the only way it would be off is that its messed up or something has been changed. Unless you had really small tires then jumped to the 235's. At 25mph it would have to be a big difference in tire sizes. The slower you go the less the speedo is off with different sized tires.

If its not working right then you are responsible for it. I dont really seeing a judge being forgiving about it being broken. He probally hears that everyday.

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Ignorance isn't a defense. You'd be better off going into court and pleading guilty. If you try to BS a judge, they'll see right through it and slap you with the biggest fine that they can, possibly charging you with perjury and contempt in the process.

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ahhhh th judge is a friends father that lives right next to state park and surfs as do i so im sur he will be on myside
Would it be a good idea to say after the incident i had taken car to a mechanic that inspected and fixed speedometer and to pleed guilty

also nyone have ideas on real problem with speedometer since its not the tires

thanks guys

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ahhhh th judge is a friends father that lives right next to state park and surfs as do i so im sur he will be on myside
Would it be a good idea to say after the incident i had taken car to a mechanic that inspected and fixed speedometer and to pleed guilty

also nyone have ideas on real problem with speedometer since its not the tires

thanks guys
We've got 275s on my wife's rig. At 70, an R2 says the vehicle is going 71.

I've got 30s on mine. At 70 an R2 says I'm going 74.

Man up and pay your ticket, it's the difference between acting like a child and acting like an adult.

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Ignorance isn't a defense. You'd be better off going into court and pleading guilty.
That's terrible advice. If you can mail in a plea, you plea not guilty. Then you appear and talk to either the cop or the DA and ask for a reduction. It's especially helpful if you have an otherwise clean record. Bring a copy of your record with you, too, which can be purchased for a nominal fee at the DMV. Another thing you can say is "I'm prepared to pay the full fine on the lower charge" when you're negotiating. I've had speeding tickets for 45 in a 30 reduced to parking violations and 0 points.
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If you try to BS a judge, they'll see right through it and slap you with the biggest fine that they can, possibly charging you with perjury and contempt in the process.
That's decent advice, although I'm sure most judges wouldn't be that harsh.

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I agree with PJL. The last thing you want to do is to say that your vehicle is defective. Either mail in the fine (not what I would do) or go to court and plead not guilty. If the cop is a no-show, you will usually win at that point. If he does show, then PJL's tips are the way to go. My last speeding ticket (10 years ago) was reduced from 50 in a 35 to a "blocking traffic" parking ticket.
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Your post is somewhat difficult to read so let me see if I've got this...You recieved a ticket for going 10mph over the posted speed. Your XJ has a speedometer that has not functioned properly since you purchased the Jeep. You are aware of the defective speedometer to the point that you know it is 9mph off. Rather than accept resposibility and pay the ticket, your plan is to go before the judge, lie your *** off, and hope for the best.

I think you'd better pay the ticket, and fix your speedometer.

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X2 on what Slowride said, there is a big problem in the country with people not taking responsibility for their own mistakes and clogging the courts with BS.

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Or the problem is cops writing BS tickets so they look good when it's time for a "performance review" (aka "just like a ticket quota, but we can't call them that anymore").

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Hi guys havent been on in awhile anyway i had gotten a speeding ticket in a state park officer says i was doing 35 in a 25 which im not sure because this is my problem since i bought my cherokee speedometer originally jumpped up with gaining speed then became smooth increasing speed but has been 9mph off ever since could the 275-35-15's be the reason instead of the called for tire
this is the case ill be bringing to the judge lol any info on tire or bad speedo cable or somethin is appreciated thanks so much
Holy crap. That was one complete run-on sentence without any punctuation, sentence structure, spelling or grammar. I honestly had to read it like 4 times to try to decipher it.

I REALLY wanted to help you, the closest I can figure after trying to read your post, is that you have recieved a speeding ticket, and you think your tires have something to do with it?..... Is that what you are trying to say?

If this is the case, I believe larger tires make the speedo run SLOWER in most cases, Your speedo says you are going 45 MPH, but you are only really going 35 MPH) if I remember correctly. I agree that the judge has probably heard this many times before. I would go with PJL's advice and plead to a lesser offense/speed if at all possible. The I'd seriously consider looking at the following website if I were you. No offense, my own weak point is math.

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You have it backwards, the speedo says a slower speed than actual because when the tires do 10 revolutions, the speedo thinks they rolled a shorter distance than they really did. It's not going to be a big difference.

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If the cop is a no-show, you will usually win at that point.
It depends on the jurisdiction. Most large citys have a representative in court serving in place of the ticketing officer. Otherwise the officers would be spending half of their paid time waiting in court.

I was once told by an off duty officer you're allowed a 5mph discrepency but I've also heard other storys of people getting fines in small towns (and the judge having no mercy) for less than 5mph over the speed limit. I guess they need the income and fighting it is futile unless you have deep pockets.

So, if you happen to be traveling along Rt 313 in the Upper bucks County town of Dublin slow down from the outside town limit of 35 to less than than the town limit of 25. I never got a ticket there but have heard many horror stories of those that have.
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