post #1 of Old 05-23-2014, 11:34 AM Thread Starter
Hazard85
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Brighton
Posts: 7
Thinking of buyng an XJ...any tips?

Hello everyone!

I've been playing in the mud for several years now, but in 4x4 trucks and ATVs, but now, with a family, I'm thinking it's time for a four-door trail rig. I settled on an XJ because they are plentiful, cheap, and parts are widely available. The rig I buy will be offroad only (it will be trailered there and back). I'm thinking of going with an automatic, purely because it's easier to "rock it" out of a mud hole. With that being said, here is the list of mods I'm thinking of:

Weld both front and rear diffs.

Redneck intake snorkel (PVC pipe run out the fender and up the A pillar)

Cat delete, glasspack muffler, and exhaust snorkel.

Fender cut

4" lift

33" Mud tires

6,000 lb winch with appropriate bumper

This will be a trail/mud rig; no rock crawling.

I'm asking for input on my ideas, as well as if there are certain years or options to look for or avoid. Thanks in advance!!

Hazard85 is offline  
post #2 of Old 05-23-2014, 12:16 PM
foreveryoung001
Registered User
1996 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Traverse City
Posts: 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazard85 View Post
Hello everyone!

I've been playing in the mud for several years now, but in 4x4 trucks and ATVs, but now, with a family, I'm thinking it's time for a four-door trail rig. I settled on an XJ because they are plentiful, cheap, and parts are widely available. The rig I buy will be offroad only (it will be trailered there and back). I'm thinking of going with an automatic, purely because it's easier to "rock it" out of a mud hole. With that being said, here is the list of mods I'm thinking of:

Weld both front and rear diffs.

Redneck intake snorkel (PVC pipe run out the fender and up the A pillar)

Cat delete, glasspack muffler, and exhaust snorkel.

Fender cut

4" lift

33" Mud tires

6,000 lb winch with appropriate bumper

This will be a trail/mud rig; no rock crawling.

I'm asking for input on my ideas, as well as if there are certain years or options to look for or avoid. Thanks in advance!!
Sounds like a fun project. I own a 96 and had I to do it again, I would have gone earlier or later. 96 is an goofy year as they were switching everything over to OBDII but on early models, they just made the 95 parts work.. on later models they switched out some of them to the 97 parts... and then are a few parts that 96 specific and some are getting hard to find. That said, its not that big of deal, but you do need to put a little extra effort in to buying the right parts to avoid multiple trips to the parts store to exchange them.

I would also avoid the 2000/2001 models with the 0331 head. The forums are full of horror stories of this particular head cracking. Its possible that you might find one that has already had the head replaced with a tupy head, but you'd want to check that before dropping any cash on the thing.

My daughter has a 90 renix, and it is a great vehicle, but some of the parts for her XJ take some work to track down too.
foreveryoung001 is offline  
post #3 of Old 05-23-2014, 12:43 PM
wizardPC
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Nolensville
Posts: 1,782
If you want to do a snorkel, you'll want to avoid 97+ models with antliock brakes. maybe the older ones, too, but I can't remember.

http://GunsCarsTech.com
If I've never pissed you off, give it time.
wizardPC is offline  
post #4 of Old 05-23-2014, 01:05 PM
Ratrod
Registered User
1996 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Lynden
Posts: 298
92-96 were the years I was recommended when I was looking.

1996 RHD XJ
Ratrod is offline  
post #5 of Old 05-24-2014, 06:24 AM
jhickman1
Registered User
1999 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Cedar Falls
Posts: 410
This is the link for when I asked a similar question a while back and got some good advice....I went with a 99 in large part because of the info and opinions in this link. Good luck with your search.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f177/...94/?highlight=
jhickman1 is offline  
post #6 of Old 05-27-2014, 08:33 PM
Kevin108
Registered User
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 3,951
Quote:
Originally Posted by wizardPC View Post
If you want to do a snorkel, you'll want to avoid 97+ models with antliock brakes. maybe the older ones, too, but I can't remember.
Don't all the ABS models also have D35s in the rear?

My build thread has pics again. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f177/kevin108s-2000-xj-build-867428/
Kevin108 is offline  
post #7 of Old 05-27-2014, 08:42 PM
VegasGT
Registered User
1988 MJ Comanche 
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Leitchfield, KY
Posts: 5,390
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin108 View Post
Don't all the ABS models also have D35s in the rear?
I believe so.

- '88 MJ Pioneer -
Build In Progress
- '04 Sierra Z71 Crew Cab -
Daily/TowPig
VegasGT is offline  
post #8 of Old 05-28-2014, 01:48 PM
Kevin108
Registered User
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 3,951
Yet another reason to avoid it.

My build thread has pics again. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f177/kevin108s-2000-xj-build-867428/
Kevin108 is offline  
post #9 of Old 05-28-2014, 02:22 PM
pismo61
Registered User
 
pismo61's Avatar
2015 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: temecula ,ca.
Posts: 360
Get one with no Ca. emissions and no power windows.They are headaches.2000-2001,Ive had two and two cracked heads.But I was not the origonal owner,so dont know if it was overheated or not.

2015 Red 2 Door(half) 6sp.
pismo61 is offline  
post #10 of Old 05-28-2014, 02:34 PM
rugsucka
Web Wheeler
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Sumware Inn
Posts: 3,002
Get whatever XJ you can find with a good running motor, a 29spline 8.25 rear ('97+), and a 231 Tcase. Better transfer case - simple, stout. Strongest stock axle in an XJ w/o ABS (not that it matters when you're hammering the throttle)

Some of the information in this thread is BS and misguiding.

-Snorkel vs ABS has no correlation. Only the D35 had ABS and you won't want that axle if you're welding the rear with bigger tires anyways, but the ABS doesn't care if you have a snorkel.
-The forums are littered with 0331 head crap - it's mostly from lack of maintenance and butt hurt, and the other 99% of the heads have had no issues. Most Ford Exploders didn't flip because of Firestone tires either.
-The advantage of the 00 and 01 XJ is the coil pack ignition which would be much more tolerant of wet and muddy conditions than a distributor based ignition. They can be water proofed too so pick the best rig you can find in your budget and beat it.

-No power windows and CA emmisions is actually a very good point - will save on weight and simplifies your under carriage.
rugsucka is offline  
post #11 of Old 05-28-2014, 10:35 PM
Kevin108
Registered User
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 3,951
Between the issues with the 0331 head, oil pump driveshaft, and low pinion D30, I would highly recommend not getting an 00-01. A 96 if you don't need cup holders and a 98-99 if you do.

My build thread has pics again. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f177/kevin108s-2000-xj-build-867428/
Kevin108 is offline  
post #12 of Old 05-28-2014, 10:47 PM
S8NNG8
Web Wheeler
 
S8NNG8's Avatar
1995 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Helena
Posts: 7,766
'96's have the issue of being a mismatch of the generations. That would be one I'd stay away from. If you like the older style, get a '95.

D3<!L!>3D
S8NNG8 is offline  
post #13 of Old 05-29-2014, 05:50 AM
Kevin108
Registered User
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 3,951
I dislike the 95s because they're not OBDII. Also, I don't think they came with the 8.25" rear either.

My build thread has pics again. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f177/kevin108s-2000-xj-build-867428/
Kevin108 is offline  
post #14 of Old 05-29-2014, 07:11 AM
VNilla
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Chapel Hill
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by rugsucka View Post
Get whatever XJ you can find with a good running motor, a 29spline 8.25 rear ('97+), and a 231 Tcase. Better transfer case - simple, stout. Strongest stock axle in an XJ w/o ABS (not that it matters when you're hammering the throttle)

Some of the information in this thread is BS and misguiding.

-Snorkel vs ABS has no correlation. Only the D35 had ABS and you won't want that axle if you're welding the rear with bigger tires anyways, but the ABS doesn't care if you have a snorkel.
-The forums are littered with 0331 head crap - it's mostly from lack of maintenance and butt hurt, and the other 99% of the heads have had no issues. Most Ford Exploders didn't flip because of Firestone tires either.
-The advantage of the 00 and 01 XJ is the coil pack ignition which would be much more tolerant of wet and muddy conditions than a distributor based ignition. They can be water proofed too so pick the best rig you can find in your budget and beat it.

-No power windows and CA emmisions is actually a very good point - will save on weight and simplifies your under carriage.
^This guy gets it.

I have a 98 and granted it hates me but I love it. After my research I found that a 98 or 99 was best for me.

I'd recommend the same for you. My selling points were the HP d30, 8.25 rear, newer style interior and a newer style body. Just avoid the renix models and you'll be fine with whatever you get. Good luck.

1998 Cherokee

Breaking bolts and taking names.
VNilla is offline  
post #15 of Old 05-29-2014, 10:25 AM
Kevin108
Registered User
2000 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 3,951
97s have a reputation for wiring issues but they're an okay choice as well.

We're just suggesting the 98-99 to try and save you some money and work. The best axles, the best options, etc.

My build thread has pics again. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f177/kevin108s-2000-xj-build-867428/
Kevin108 is offline  
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome