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Unread 05-12-2013, 11:00 PM   #1
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Some advice on an xj?

Hi all! I traded my 4.0 ZJ for a z71 earlier this year. I have decided i want to go back to a jeep and i have found a guy who may be interested in trading his xj for my truck. He has an 01 Xj 4.0 with 4.5 im assuming RC lift kit and 2 inch spacer up front with 2 inch shackle in the back. The guy said it has the 8.25 rear end (that sound right?) and the dana 30 up front. The jeep is also sitting on 34' tsl radials. Jeep has around 135-140k miles on it. How's this sound? I know Zj's pretty well but not XJ's so much. Any help is appreciated

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Unread 05-12-2013, 11:10 PM   #2
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Ask yourself this;


If you were to sell your truck outright how much do you honestly think you could get for it?

I'd say that jeep is worth $3,000-4,000 tops.
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Unread 05-12-2013, 11:15 PM   #3
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I'd say at most i could get for the truck is around 4,000 around where i live (Southern IL). My thought process was if i traded for a lifted jeep.. aslong as it was lifted right that would make up the difference. However, that leads into alot of other factors that could come into play too since if its a lifted jeep its obviously been wheeled.
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Unread 05-12-2013, 11:21 PM   #4
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I personally wouldn't buy an already lifted jeep. I look at that as buying someone else's headache.

I'd rather do all the work myself and know it was done right.

Just because its lifted doesn't mean it was wheeled. A lot of guys lift them and never truly wheel them.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 09:19 AM   #5
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Im quite hesitant about buying a lifted (and to that degree) Jeep. For me its, "Well did he do good work on installing it? What could have gone wrong?" I am with Hudson, I find greater value in doing the work myself, then I know what went into that lift, and if there is an issue with the Jeep, you know what it could possibly be.

Also, look into the head. If it hasnt been replaced, I would probably avoid it. I bought mine and the head cracked and the gasket blew a month later. '00 and '01 XJ's have a notoriously bad head. 97-99 I would say were the prime years for the XJ.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 10:15 AM   #6
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He uses the jeep for a DD so it can't be in that bad of shape could it? How big of an issue is the heads on xj's?
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Unread 05-13-2013, 10:38 AM   #7
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I used mine as a DD when I was a freshman in college, and that thing was jacked up haha. The heads basically will deteriorate and then crack over time causing coolant loss and subsequent internal damage. Basically, the head is about $1000 roughly to get replaced if it doesnt harm anything else. If it does then youll have to have that replaced as well adding to the cost. Ive heard of people throwing rods, lifters, destroying cylinders because of a cracked head.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 11:18 AM   #8
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Good lord haha. I plan on atleast looking at the jeep in person for further inspection. Should i just look at the heads to see if their cracked? or are there other ways to tell if something is about to go wrong with them?
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Unread 05-13-2013, 03:19 PM   #9
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My second XJ is an 01 with the dreaded 0331 head nd she just hit 147,000 miles so if it is taken care of properly the head isn't a problem,what concerns me is the spacers and longer shackles,are the springs stock with add a leafs and longer shackles gonna cause sagging springs in the future if not already.is there a slip yoke eliminator to prevent drive line vibes? To many questions I hold probably pass myself unless your extremely competent in your mechanic abilities
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Unread 05-13-2013, 05:08 PM   #10
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You cant visibly see the cracks from the exterior. You have to have a compression test done.
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Don't think the other heads don't crack because they do.

I just had my 1999 0630 head crack on me. Cost about $400 for another head, and about $150 or so for all the new gaskets. I did all the work myself. Took about a day total.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 08:37 PM   #12
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Ouch. I'm starting to rethink things now. I dont really have funds to jump into a money pit. Thanks for the info.
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If you put 2" lift shackles on the rear of an XJ and do not change the shackle upper mounting point then the shackles will be vertical and you will have to fix that. It will take bumps on the road like a wooden wheeled wagon.
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Unread 05-13-2013, 10:06 PM   #14
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How difficult would it be to take off the 2' lift shackles?
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Unread 05-14-2013, 09:42 AM   #15
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It is easy to swap shackles but if they really are 2" lift shackles you will lose 2" of lift when you swap them to stock.
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