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post #16 of 51 Old 05-07-2013, 05:41 AM
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I think go for a real snorkel. I don't like the cowl intakes everybody does. For one, there's a better chance of water going over the hood and into the cowl than actually into the airbox. Now if you are going slow through deep puddles that are up over you engine with a cowl intake, then you are just stupid. Expect faulty electrical items if you do. Another thing I would like to point out is if your tires are out past your fenders, your snorkel is not going to get ripped off on trails. They are not any wider than the stock flares on a jeep. I go down trails that are meant for ATV's at a local park and have never had a flare taken off, only rubbed up against. Never have I had anything torn off my jeep because of a tight trail. The snorkel is also a true cold air intake system. The cowl still gets hot and you will still be sucking in hot air. Don't let anybody tell you that cold air means nothing. The cold air allows more oxygen into the engine since cold air is more dense than hot air. Just my $.02 about this whole cowl, snorkel controversy.
My $.02 on that, while I have not checked my intake temperature (maybe ill do it on the way to work today), I have felt the ducting to my intake from my cowl snorkel and it is cool to the touch when running. Even with the air filter sitting on the valve cover. I would imagine it is a fairly effective cold air source.




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post #17 of 51 Old 05-07-2013, 10:14 AM
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Think about how a radiator works. Something metal has air blown across it to keep it cool.
Sound like any part being discussed here might work similarly?

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I would go snorkel. Down in FL I have seen first hand a Cowl intake fail, and never a properly installed snorkel. Plus you can get snorkels so cheap now a days that it almost doesnt make sense to do a cowl, unless you are afraid of the hole.
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Well properly installed things probably shouldn't fail now, should they?

Unless you really intend on regularly driving through water that is going to be going over the hood (thereby ruining your interior and maybe anything electrical you haven't waterproofed anyway) there's no significant advantage to a snorkel over a cowl.
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Again, I still say a snorkel is more practicable. Thought I'd chime in again. I run the river in my area often and I can't tell you how many times I have had water come over the hood. I'll post the pics I got when I was stuck. In that occurrence water came up over the hood when I entered the bottom of the river. After I got pulled out and made sure I didn't suck in any water, I checked the cowl because I was going to do a cowl intake. It turned up being pretty soaked with water. That was the point where I got deterred from the cowl intake set up. Not only have I had water over my hood at that river, I also ride trails that have some high water crossings that cause water to go over the hood. If you have momentum in moving water, it will not rush in the doors nor flood the engine bay completely.
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I had a ARB Safari Snorkel on my YJ it saved me from Hydrolocking when I went in a small hole at the Pine Barrens . I mainly play on rocks now out west and of all the trails I go on there is only 1 water crossing which is rarely over 20" deep .

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Down in FL I have seen first hand a Cowl intake fail
The cowl snorkel failed or the mounting height was insufficient for the depth of the water the driver went into?

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The cowl snorkel failed or the mounting height was insufficient for the depth of the water the driver went into?
You can only mount a cowl so high, the access to the cowl isn't all that big.

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The cowl snorkel failed or the mounting height was insufficient for the depth of the water the driver went into?
Remember that I live in Miami and deep water crossings are the norm. But it has enough water splash in that the cowl area filled with water and made its way into the hose.
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Remember that I live in Miami and deep water crossings are the norm. But it has enough water splash in that the cowl area filled with water and made its way into the hose.
Not if you run it into the cowl, then straightup like a H1.
They have the deepest fording depth of any stock vehicle. So they only way you could swamp it is either water above the hood, or a leak.
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Not if you run it into the cowl, then straightup like a H1.
They have the deepest fording depth of any stock vehicle. So they only way you could swamp it is either water above the hood, or a leak.
An H1 and an XJ are not the same.

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Can't see what year you have but pre 97 you could run it through the cowl into the cab up through the roof with a roof scoop. Full snorkel functionality without worrying about it hitting anything and getting ripped off.


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Can't see what year you have but pre 97 you could run it through the cowl into the cab up through the roof with a roof scoop. Full snorkel functionality without worrying about it hitting anything and getting ripped off.
Curious as to how you would run it from the cowl to the roof.

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I lost a motor to not having a snorkel once .. I wont do that again .. Cowl snorkel at the VERY least

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Curious as to how you would run it from the cowl to the roof.
Through the firewall and eliminate the glove box.


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