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Unread 07-21-2013, 10:28 PM   #1
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Retrofitting HID projectors for xj

I already have h4 conversion headlamps. Does anyone know of a projector kit that is fairly easy to install or a good guide for retrofitting an h4 headlamp? Thanks.

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Unread 07-21-2013, 10:41 PM   #2
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http://jeep-xj.info/HowtoBiXenonProjectors.htm
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Unread 07-21-2013, 10:42 PM   #3
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The fellow has a nice right up and where to look for answers. http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoBiXenonProjectors.htm

I also recommend http://www.theretrofitsource.com their advice and quality of product is top notch.


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Unread 07-21-2013, 11:00 PM   #4
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Thanks for the links! It will be nice to see the road at night. My headlights are garbage
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Unread 07-23-2013, 02:51 PM   #5
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What H4 housings did you buy?? Did you use an upgraded wire harness??
Admittedly, stock sealed beams are garbage. The Rampage housings I bought don't have the greatest following, but they are much better than stock.
Having said that, I often wonder if the people wanting HID are just suffering from impaired night vision
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i heard autopal are pretty decent, 32 for a pair of housings, then throw in a $60 HID kit and bam you have some good night vision.

or just run some auxiliary lights lol.
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I'm not sure what brand they were I got them for Christmas a couple years ago. They have clear glass lenses, the harness is still stock
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i heard autopal are pretty decent, 32 for a pair of housings, then throw in a $60 HID kit and bam you have some good night vision.l
No. Just no. Slapping cheap HIDs into reflector housings is irresponsible--dangerous and wasteful. Do it right or don't do it at all. Putting HIDs into reflector housings will throw a ton of light up into oncoming drivers' eyes. It really is dangerous. I've been blinded to the point of fearing for my life because of unsafe HIDs, so don't dare to defend this half-assed practice to me. Aside from dangerous, its wasteful. Reflectors don't focus all that light where you need it--light gets thrown in directions that are simply not useful especially if you're one of those "just angle/aim them down" people. Don't do it. Retrofit HID projectors so that they use their light the way you need them to and so that you're not blinding oncoming drivers. Go to danielsternlighting.com and look-up his info on HIDs (he has a ton of great info) and learn something.
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Unread 07-24-2013, 12:43 PM   #9
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No. Just no. Slapping cheap HIDs into reflector housings is irresponsible--dangerous and wasteful. Do it right or don't do it at all. Putting HIDs into reflector housings will throw a ton of light up into oncoming drivers' eyes. It really is dangerous. I've been blinded to the point of fearing for my life because of unsafe HIDs. Don't do it. Retrofit HID projectors so that they use their light the way you need them to and so that you're not blinding oncoming drivers. Go to danielsternlighting.com and look-up his info on HIDs (he has a ton of great info) and learn something.
yes thats the cheap way of doing it, you can do it but you must angle the headlights down some to keep glare down. i didnt say that was the correct way of doing it. i have had some cars with retrofits and one with the original headlights with HID and it looked great. no glare and a very nice cut off, oh and i have been to that site about 5 years ago when i did my first retrofit but thank you for the wisdom.
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yes thats the cheap way of doing it, you can do it but you must angle the headlights down some to keep glare down. i didnt say that was the correct way of doing it. i have had some cars with retrofits and one with the original headlights with HID and it looked great. no glare and a very nice cut off, oh and i have been to that site about 5 years ago when i did my first retrofit but thank you for the wisdom.
I like how you cut out Mschi772's comment about aiming the headlights down and then go on to say doing that makes it OK to use junk HID setups...
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I like how you cut out Mschi772's comment about aiming the headlights down and then go on to say doing that makes it OK to use junk HID setups...
Even just aimed down they still suck. You go and put money into your lights just to point most of it into the ground to make up for a horrible optic system. And even aimed down the light spill is still bad. you shouldn't be lighting up treetops at all with your low beams, thats just wasted output.

Do the projectors, do it right the first time. There is a reason why no modern OEM HID systems use reflector optics.
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I like how you cut out Mschi772's comment about aiming the headlights down and then go on to say doing that makes it OK to use junk HID setups...
He/she didn't. I did some editing after being quoted, and changes don't carry over to the quote.
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i heard autopal are pretty decent, 32 for a pair of housings, then throw in a $60 HID kit and bam you have some good night vision.

or just run some auxiliary lights lol.
do not ****ing do this.
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No. Just no. Slapping cheap HIDs into reflector housings is irresponsible--dangerous and wasteful. Do it right or don't do it at all. Putting HIDs into reflector housings will throw a ton of light up into oncoming drivers' eyes. It really is dangerous. I've been blinded to the point of fearing for my life because of unsafe HIDs, so don't dare to defend this half-assed practice to me. Aside from dangerous, its wasteful. Reflectors don't focus all that light where you need it--light gets thrown in directions that are simply not useful especially if you're one of those "just angle/aim them down" people. Don't do it. Retrofit HID projectors so that they use their light the way you need them to and so that you're not blinding oncoming drivers. Go to danielsternlighting.com and look-up his info on HIDs (he has a ton of great info) and learn something.
Big x2.

I will be doing a similar retrofit on mine sometime this summer. After driving my Audi I will never ever go back to a non projector setup. I honestly feel like the light you get out of the older style sealed beams is downright dangerous. I can't see a thing with those.
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