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Unread 07-24-2008, 10:13 PM   #1
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Recovered a Stuck F-150 Today!! (My First Recovery)

Well as you can tell by the title, I pulled out an F-150 today, its quite the story actually.

There is this small public beach near my house, but it has a rough trail to it and the parking lot is literally part of the beach, so basically it is inadvisable for any non 4wd or and other incapable vehicle to go to it.

So basically i park, walk around with some friends and screw around for a bit but when i get back there is quite the scene, there is a 2wd F-150 that buried itself so far into the sand the bumper was touching the ground and a bunch of people trying to help the guy out. So I stayed and watched the scene for a bit. Some people were trying to push it, that didn't work. The funniest was when a guy in a Chevy Avalanche Z71 attempting to tow him out with some tiny string attached to his license plate.

So I am nearly about to bust out laughing at this point so I step in and tell they guy that I have a recovery chain in my Jeep and I can get him out in a second. I backed the Cherokee up to the truck and attached the chain to my hitch receiver and wrapped the chain around his back bumper since he had no recovery point and the bumper was clearly strong enough as it had a place to put a hitch ball, so i wrapped the chain around that.

After coaching the guy on how to apply the gas while i towed him out (had to, he was a complete idiot in this sense because when trying to get out under his own power he managed to make the tires smoke) I thew the Jeep in 4WD Low and gave it some gas and that F150 came out of that sand like a knife through butter.

In the end I have to say I am really impressed with the Cherokee for its towing and recovery ability, it just makes me more and more happy I bought it. Plus the guy was incredibly thankful and gave me his name and number and said if I ever need anything to call him, he owes me one. This whole thing just made my day.

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Unread 07-24-2008, 10:24 PM   #2
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Stock XJ?

Any pics?
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Unread 07-24-2008, 10:27 PM   #3
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Stock XJ, i didn't have a camera and it was too dark in the evening to use my cameraphone
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Unread 07-25-2008, 12:47 AM   #4
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I'm pretty impressed with the Cherokee, but I don't know how heavy of vehicles I want to pull out. I've pulled another Cherokee out of the mud, but I'm worried how well I could handle pulling my friend's Explorer.

Also, I have a tow rope, not a chain.
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Unread 07-25-2008, 02:21 AM   #5
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Well I'll start out by saying good going on helping somebody out and getting him home in time for dinner.

How ever don't pat yourself on the back to much.From what you wrote you made several rookie mistakes yourself in the recovery that could have had potential problems.

I'm not going to say its not safe to use a chain.It is if used properly.
First you note that you attached the chain to your hitch.You don't really get into to detail on this one so I'm not going to go there.How ever,second you mention that you wrapped the chain around his rear bumper possibly the tow ball itself.
Just because it can except a tow ball doesn't mean its strong enough to recover the stuck vehicle.It can still taco and rip right off with enough force.
NEVER,and I mean NEVER wrap a chain,tow strap,recovery strap,etc ,etc around a tow ball.That is a massive no no.You are dealing with something in a single shear .You are also dealing with an item that was never meant to take a shock load like that.If that ball were to receive enough force to shear off you just created a projectile that could easily hurt somebody.

When recovering with a chain never use it to jerk a person loose.A chain should only be used with even steady pulls.If you need to jerk the other car then a recovery strap should be used.A recovery strap is made to stretch and take away some of the shock load .Never use a tow rope to recover a vehicle .These are meant to pull a vehicle down a road not to recovery a vehicle from being stuck.They are not made to handle shock loads or heavy strain and will easily rip and tear .Never use a strap that has metal hooks.If you have one do yourself as well as any potential person you come across a favor and throw it in the garbage can .

This concludes today safety class on how to properly recover.
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Unread 07-25-2008, 10:32 AM   #6
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would it be okay to cut the metal ends off my strap and just have the loops?
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Unread 07-25-2008, 03:20 PM   #7
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I'm pretty impressed with the Cherokee, but I don't know how heavy of vehicles I want to pull out. I've pulled another Cherokee out of the mud, but I'm worried how well I could handle pulling my friend's Explorer.

Also, I have a tow rope, not a chain.
explorers are just full of air. my 2 door was like a little over 4k lbs, right about the same weight as my 4dr XJ (cant remember if the 4k was curb weight or with everything)

funinmud, the issue is still how the strap physical is as to also having the metal hooks, losing the hooks is safer but still not ideal... i say this yet have a tow strap with the hooks in my XJ because i got it before i knew better... and have no cash to get the right one but im not off road at this point ever so i guess its ok

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Unread 07-25-2008, 04:55 PM   #8
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Well I'll start out by saying good going on helping somebody out and getting him home in time for dinner.

How ever don't pat yourself on the back to much.From what you wrote you made several rookie mistakes yourself in the recovery that could have had potential problems.

I'm not going to say its not safe to use a chain.It is if used properly.
First you note that you attached the chain to your hitch.You don't really get into to detail on this one so I'm not going to go there.How ever,second you mention that you wrapped the chain around his rear bumper possibly the tow ball itself.
Just because it can except a tow ball doesn't mean its strong enough to recover the stuck vehicle.It can still taco and rip right off with enough force.
NEVER,and I mean NEVER wrap a chain,tow strap,recovery strap,etc ,etc around a tow ball.That is a massive no no.You are dealing with something in a single shear .You are also dealing with an item that was never meant to take a shock load like that.If that ball were to receive enough force to shear off you just created a projectile that could easily hurt somebody.

When recovering with a chain never use it to jerk a person loose.A chain should only be used with even steady pulls.If you need to jerk the other car then a recovery strap should be used.A recovery strap is made to stretch and take away some of the shock load .Never use a tow rope to recover a vehicle .These are meant to pull a vehicle down a road not to recovery a vehicle from being stuck.They are not made to handle shock loads or heavy strain and will easily rip and tear .Never use a strap that has metal hooks.If you have one do yourself as well as any potential person you come across a favor and throw it in the garbage can .

This concludes today safety class on how to properly recover.
Ok i suppose I will clarify a couple things.

1) One of the reasons I was just standing and watching for a bit was because I knew I did not have my recovery strap with me and all I had was the chain. After thinking about it I decided to give the chain a try because the sand had a lot of give and if I had good traction I could do a nice smooth pull. So lets make it clear I had virtually no shock load.

2) As for where I attached the chain, I luckily knew F-150s pretty well as my dad has one and I know that the back bumper is attached very very well and is suitable for about 4k pounds which is about the weight of the F-150 so I wrapped the chain around the entire bumper. I attached the other end of the chain to my Class 3 hitch. I would not do something as stupid as wrap it around the hitch ball.

In the end everything worked out great with zero damage to either car just as I expected. My chain is still in great condition, but im going to throw my recovery straps in my car and keep them there all the time now.
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Unread 07-25-2008, 05:06 PM   #9
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If not the bumper, what would he use? With the bumper, at least it's screwed directly to the frame, and at worst the bumper would bend.
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Unread 07-25-2008, 05:23 PM   #10
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zero damage to either car

read the phrase under my user name...

as for recovery, ive only pushed an eclipse off a small snow drift in a parking lot when my jeep was stock and i pulled a ranger out of a ditch with my tow hooks..i love having 4WD
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Unread 07-25-2008, 05:25 PM   #11
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If not the bumper, what would he use? With the bumper, at least it's screwed directly to the frame, and at worst the bumper would bend.
I'm going to guess you are new to this and never saw a bumper get removed the fast way.

As to the bumper being bolted to the frame,what else would it be bolted to?That doesn't mean it will take a shock load.I'm not completely sure the stock bumper is rated at 4000 # .Yes the truck might have a towing capacity of 4000 # that doesn't mean the stock bumper is rated for that just because it has a tow ball location.

Well what ever it all worked out good you got the guy home ,just really pointing out some safety pointers.
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Unread 07-25-2008, 05:28 PM   #12
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if not for the bumper, next best bet would be the axle
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Unread 07-25-2008, 05:41 PM   #13
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What year (style will work) was it? I had a 94 and bent the bumper backing over a log. mine was 4x4 though
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Unread 07-25-2008, 08:18 PM   #14
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It was a 97+..... but on a side note lets say there are no true recovery points what is the best place to attach the strap that we can all agree on?
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Unread 07-25-2008, 08:48 PM   #15
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axle

edit: if you were lucky, (and im assuming you have a D35 as is), maybe you wouldve ended up ripping it out and hed let you keep it since im assuming hes got the 8.8 ()
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