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Unread 07-05-2009, 09:46 PM   #1
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Question?? XJ vs KJ

I'm starting to look for another Jeep. I like the Cherokee with the 4.0. But the thought came the other day that maybe I would maybe start looking at the Liberty's. I want this vehicle mainly as a commute truck which she commutes 55 miles one way to work. So fuel mileage is important. But I don't want her in a KILLED in ACCIDENT cracker box car either. This would be also used off-road living in rural Nevada there are lots of backroads we travel.
My question is what way would you guys go & why. Some where I read that the 4.0L gets better mileage than the 3.7L is this true? One other thing she commutes with two other adults. The other point is we would be replacing a Chevy Blazer 4x4 that gets around 19-20 MPG on the highway, with either of these get in that area?
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PS whatever we buy will be USED not NEW. Will be in the 1999 era.


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Unread 07-05-2009, 10:12 PM   #2
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Well offroad, the XJ is superior. Solid axles, much easier and higher lifts, more powerful engine, all that. For the KJ Liberty, you can only lift it about 3 inches without major expense. The engine doesn't have much power, and I don't think it's a good card all around. If you drive an XJ smoothly, and not like a grandma, but just smoothly, you can easily get 21 to 20 MPG, with the 4.0 and the auto trans. With a 5 speed, even higher. Plus 98-99 are popular years, you can get one loaded in good shape for cheap.

The only problem i see is that the back seats aren't great, but big deal. I think in this case the XJ might even win.
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Unread 07-05-2009, 10:35 PM   #3
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Well offroad, the XJ is superior. Solid axles, much easier and higher lifts, more powerful engine, all that. For the KJ Liberty, you can only lift it about 3 inches without major expense. The engine doesn't have much power, and I don't think it's a good card all around. If you drive an XJ smoothly, and not like a grandma, but just smoothly, you can easily get 21 to 20 MPG, with the 4.0 and the auto trans. With a 5 speed, even higher. Plus 98-99 are popular years, you can get one loaded in good shape for cheap.

The only problem i see is that the back seats aren't great, but big deal. I think in this case the XJ might even win.
Cargo space in a KJ blows too. That said I know some people with some pretty slick KJ's granted they did have to put a lot of cash into them and one is being converted to a solid axle. IMHO if you are using it more on the street then go with the KJ. Safety rating is better and the IFS is much smoother on the road. I live in Reno and I know a lot of the roads you would be driving in will be fine with a stock KJ. Now if you want to have some fun off road then go with the XJ and put a lift on it.
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PS whatever we buy will be USED not NEW. Will be in the 1999 era.
You aren't looking at a Liberty then, didn't make the kj's until '02 if memory serves.

If you are commuting 110 miles daily in the rig, why not just buy a xj to play with on the weekends and a little gas miliage getter for the daily commute? The difference between 17-20 mpg in a xj and 35-40 mpg in a commuter car would pay for the itself within a couple years.
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Unread 07-06-2009, 08:07 PM   #5
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Price wise, the XJ wins hands down.

The cheapest KJs I see in my area are $4500
You can get a nice XJ for $3000 easily, a little more for the mint, low mile rigs.
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Liberty's are crap. Sorry kj dudes. They look horrible, ifs is garbage, and the 3.7 is really gutless. Also the dash is silly looking.

Find a decent 99 xj with a high pinion axle, newer high flow intake, and everything else.

Also, the xj has cheaper, useful parts.
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Unread 07-06-2009, 11:46 PM   #7
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Wel; here is a chart for you.

XJ=Male
KJ=Female
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You aren't looking at a Liberty then, didn't make the kj's until '02 if memory serves.

If you are commuting 110 miles daily in the rig, why not just buy a xj to play with on the weekends and a little gas miliage getter for the daily commute? The difference between 17-20 mpg in a xj and 35-40 mpg in a commuter car would pay for the itself within a couple years.
I knew the Liberty would have to be 02 or newer the Cherokee would be in the 99 era. We own a 98 GC Limited 5.9. I just don't want to put my wife in a Killed in Accident compact car. If we can get 19-20 out of a 4.0 & the 3.7 isn't much better on mileage then the 4.0 is the way for us to go. She only drives the commute once or twice a week for 9 months, she is a special ed teacher, then rides with the other teachers she commutes with. We have no use for a car other than the commute & we own 3-4x4s now. The Blazer is going to be replaced the engine is getting tired & starting to rattle. I just want one 20 MPG consistent 4x4. Our ZJ does OK on the commute with my wife, she gets 18 MPG on the commute, but only around 14 in town.
Thanks for the input. It looks like the XJ is going to be the replacement.
Thanks again for all the input.
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Yeah sounds like to XJ would suite you then, just drove it slow
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Unread 07-07-2009, 08:49 PM   #10
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Going on past experience, I have a '97 for 13 years now, commuted 80 miles a day for 4 years. Had an '04 KJ from new for 4 years, my wife's DD.
XJ: sturdy, dependable, easy to work on and maintain, more torque 20-22mpg possible. Seats suck! Back seats for adults? Forget it. More cargo room, although lowering or removing seats necessary.

KJ: more comfortable ride (IFS), better brakes (4w disc), sturdy solid feel, better seats for long rides, lacked power with a/c on and loaded, 23 mpg at best (2wd a/c not on all highway) city mpg 15-17. Heavier vehicle.

Traded in the KJ for a better mpg commuter vehicle and kept the XJ (148k miles and looks ,runs and drives great.)

Bottom line: A good clean XJ with aftermarket seats(Mastercraft?), really good shocks and tires. With the money you would save over a KJ, you could have a realy capable and comfortable XJ.
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