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post #1 of 22 Old 01-23-2012, 08:05 PM Thread Starter
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Popping/clunking noise

Ok so Brief overview, bought a 96 xj w/out 4wd axle in it.... prev owner removed 4wd... dont ask... long story, anyways bought new axle replaced U-joints in the shafts and made sure everything was looking good before putting the axle in the jeep. Got it to the shop and up on the lift and swapped, all is well..... until I take it for a spin (all-stock) off roading to test the 4wd and axle and to see what these xj's can do, very pleased.... well now I have this Crazy clunk/poping noise under my feet on the driver side and seems only when going over bumps and of course off road flexing and moving its popping/clunking over and over, I have figured out if I Reverse about 3 feet and then stop and put in Drive it will pop/clunk, and I can almost make it pop like that everytime that way, I get when I pull into my drive way.... which is left wheel up 1st and then all others as follows.... I think it might be control arms bushing maybe, and ive noticed it pulling left when braking no noise just pulls left, feels real loose on the highway almost swaying, common sense would lead me to the SWAY bar!can anyone please please help????

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post #2 of 22 Old 01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
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If you have after market control arms check those to see if one of the bushings snapped open, I had it happen to mine and it made that exact same sound over bumps,

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post #3 of 22 Old 01-23-2012, 08:19 PM Thread Starter
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If you have after market control arms check those to see if one of the bushings snapped open, I had it happen to mine and it made that exact same sound over bumps,
They are stock UCA(upper control arm) and LCA's(lower) I did buy new MOOG POLYURATHANE BUSHINGS have not put them in yet, should I try that first and see? I was thinking its the UCA's this whole time just wanted to ask around.

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post #4 of 22 Old 01-24-2012, 11:50 AM
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No the stock ones shouldn't pop out. I'm not sure then. sorry

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post #5 of 22 Old 01-24-2012, 12:04 PM
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I would still look over the control arms to make sure bushings are ok and they are tightened down properly. Also check your sway bar body side mounts and bushings. My drivers side sway bar bushing had fallen out of mine when I first got it just about drove me nuts for a couple of days till I found it.

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I would still look over the control arms to make sure bushings are ok and they are tightened down properly. Also check your sway bar body side mounts and bushings. My drivers side sway bar bushing had fallen out of mine when I first got it just about drove me nuts for a couple of days till I found it.

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ill check all that I have new UCA bushings im thinking about getting the lift with new lower control arms in the kit, that a way I get a lift and maybe take care of my popping noise at the same time, someone mentioned that there are diff MM sizes with the SWAY BAR well I remember putting the sway bushings on and thinking these dont fit right, I may look into replacing all the bushings..... <SIGH> anyways, thanks for the into and I will update once I figure out what is causing it.
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Following this one closely, the 2000 I just bought is doing the clunking under the drivers floor sound too.
Just for information, replaced sway bar bushings..no go, took front track bar off..clunking still there, removed front driveshaft, clunking still there.
One of two things left to check, 1. one of the bushings on a control arm or, 2. ball joints?
Post results please.
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Following this one closely, the 2000 I just bought is doing the clunking under the drivers floor sound too.
Just for information, replaced sway bar bushings..no go, took front track bar off..clunking still there, removed front driveshaft, clunking still there.
One of two things left to check, 1. one of the bushings on a control arm or, 2. ball joints?
Post results please.
awesome, thanks for the info I as well disconnected sway bar, still clunking, I already have the UCA bushings, there poly though and personally I like poly it squeaks but if soak em silicone they quiet down alot, I will replace these soon maybe this weekend, I will definitely post after the UCA bushing replacement, it has to be that, not much else left.
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post #9 of 22 Old 01-27-2012, 11:36 PM Thread Starter
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awesome, thanks for the info I as well disconnected sway bar, still clunking, I already have the UCA bushings, there poly though and personally I like poly it squeaks but if soak em silicone they quiet down alot, I will replace these soon maybe this weekend, I will definitely post after the UCA bushing replacement, it has to be that, not much else left.
well I just got back from putting the POLY urathane bushings in the upper control arms, Holy crap getting the bushing pressed into the arm its self took about 20 minutes, gettting the bushing out of the upper control mount that is on top of the pumpkin was a B***H, pardon my french, it basically took an impact hammer, drill, huge C clamp and alot of cussing and hammering and finally came out after that.... all went smooth, got it off the lift back on the ground, and tested it, no more popping noise! no clunks, sounds great actually you can tell there are new bushings in it, bumps are quieter, has more "control" it is so nice to have finally fixed it.

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post #10 of 22 Old 01-29-2012, 10:29 PM
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So it was one or both of the uppers that went bad? Did the old one look bad when it was on the jeep? was it obviously bad? Just trying to narrow my problem a little more, but leaning toward the same issue as yours.
Glad yours is fixed
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So it was one or both of the uppers that went bad? Did the old one look bad when it was on the jeep? was it obviously bad? Just trying to narrow my problem a little more, but leaning toward the same issue as yours.
Glad yours is fixed
I replaced all 4 top bushings, 2 on top of the axle and 2 in the 2 in the arms, well now after test driving it I am still getting a little bit of a popping noise doesn't seem the same as original issue, and alot quieter, but I think its a ball joint popping now, cant really tell I will keep replacing parts and narrow it down, it does drive a whole better and hitting bumps are better, you said you looked at your track bar? I looked mine over and the sway bar, I still havent disconnected it yet, but I cant tell if it actually fixed it.
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I actually removed the track bar and it still made the clunking noise, I only have to back mine up a short distance to get mine to clunk, so there was no danger of loosing control while driving, keep us posted.
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The stamped metal control arms are flexing and popping around bushings. Mine does it all the time now. Thinkin about cutting a spreader and tack welding it on the open sides of the control arms until I can get after market control arms from junk yard or parts vehicle on Craigs. Mine have popped for over a year now... but so does the drivers side door every time I open it!

Junk yard, hand me down 21.5" wheel travel front and 11.5" wheel travel in rear with stuffed 33's.
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The stamped metal control arms are flexing and popping around bushings. Mine does it all the time now. Thinkin about cutting a spreader and tack welding it on the open sides of the control arms until I can get after market control arms from junk yard or parts vehicle on Craigs. Mine have popped for over a year now... but so does the drivers side door every time I open it!
I have re-enforced control arms, my dad is a machinist and we welded some support on the stamped metal ones, I think it is either sway bar or possible motor mount, because I can reverse and put it into drive and clunk, so I am about to replace the entire front end with new parts or buy me a new jeep that doesnt pop.
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I have re-enforced control arms, my dad is a machinist and we welded some support on the stamped metal ones, I think it is either sway bar or possible motor mount, because I can reverse and put it into drive and clunk, so I am about to replace the entire front end with new parts or buy me a new jeep that doesnt pop.

Might look at your trans mount while your at it. Also just remembered one of our XJs had an issue with the exhaust getting into the front DS. That clunk drove us mad trying to find out what that was and never figured out why. But we are betting the exhaust got tweaked when wheeling across some fallen trees.

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