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View Poll Results: What would you do? *please read below*
Dana 44 7 38.89%
Chyrco 8.25 0 0%
Ford 8.8 9 50.00%
Super 35 1 5.56%
Other *please specify* 1 5.56%
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Unread 04-15-2010, 02:58 PM   #1
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Need help with axle swap choices

Well to start off i got a dana 30 up front (gonna leave it there) 35 in the rear with 3.55s

I have 31's but i plan to go 33's so I'm going to re-gear to 4.56s

My plan is to go with Eaton E-lockers, but i can't get them until I re-gear.

Option #1 Cherokee Dana 44

Pros: easy to bolt up and e-lockers are available
cons: could be hard to find, and could be pricey

Option #2 Chryco 8.25 from cherokee

pros: should be easy to find, and most likely cheap
cons: Eaton doesn't E-locker and there aren't that many selectable locker options for the 8.25

Option #3 Ford 8.8 (from a year with disc brakes)

pros: shouldn't be to hard to find, decent price, pretty sure e-locker is available
cons: harder to swap, (a little shorter etc.)

Option #4 Super 35 kit (would have to buy without locker)

Pros: no axle swap
cons: could be pricey, doesn't come with the locker I want

Alright, tell me what you think I should do. If i forgot anything please let me know.

Thanks, Mitch

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Unread 04-15-2010, 03:36 PM   #2
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Just come to utah, tons of 44's on ksl, and tons of cherokees in the jy.
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Unread 04-15-2010, 03:41 PM   #3
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IMHO, I would go d44/8.8

the 8.25 isn't that great of a rear axle, it will hold up to some abuse but the aftermarket isn't there for it when/if you're ready to upgrade.

the super 35 kit is a very nice kit that is pretty strong, however just like any super kit, should you break an axle, you're boned unless you're carrying "super" spares. If you have the money to buy the "super" spares than this would be fine, but I know I carry my stock axles as spares to get me off the trail and a stock 35 shaft won't work

the 8.8 is a great upgrade for an xj, its fairly easy to bolt in and defintely provides good strength for what you'll be doing, the aftermarket is huge for these axles because they've been used in everything from a mustang to explorer and some f150's. The problem is making sure you get the right one, you DO NOT want one from a ranger, you'd prefer one from a late model explorer with discs, but finding one for a reasonable price can sometimes be difficult

the d44 is also a great option, most of what I said about the 8.8 applies here as well, INCLUDING the fact that they are difficult to find. I went this way because I found one, but I would look for a d44 or 8.8 and find the more cost effective option
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Unread 04-15-2010, 03:44 PM   #4
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How do you figure an XJ 44 would be an easier swap than an 8.8? Or are you referring to a TJ 44? If it's a TJ 44 then yes, easiest and a lot of support for it. 8.8's are great candidates too.
(EDIT) - I was only looking at your picture and saw a TJ and was very confused. Then I remembered what forum I was in. I say try to find an XJ44 if you can. If not, then the 8.8.

8.8 shafts from JY's are plentiful, not so with the XJ D44's
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Unread 04-15-2010, 04:34 PM   #5
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Thanks for the prompt replies everyone. I was leaning to the Dana 44 or ford 8.8 and you guys are confirming the same things i thought. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was missing.

I think my plans are to try and find a xj d44or 8.8 with discs out of an explorer.

Do most people just use wheel spacer to make up for the size difference in the 8.8?
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Unread 04-15-2010, 05:19 PM   #6
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I'd go Ford 8.8
Easy to find, disc brakes, and the fabrication really isn't that hard.

The difference in length of axles really isn't enough to worry about- isn't it like 5/8 of an inch?
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Unread 04-15-2010, 06:38 PM   #7
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I'd go Ford 8.8
Easy to find, disc brakes, and the fabrication really isn't that hard.

The difference in length of axles really isn't enough to worry about- isn't it like 5/8 of an inch?
its something really close to that, its almost not noticeable of a difference, the only thing that turns me off of the 8.8 is that it is a c-clip rear end, so if a c-clip fails, out slides your axle etc
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Unread 04-15-2010, 06:45 PM   #8
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its something really close to that, its almost not noticeable of a difference, the only thing that turns me off of the 8.8 is that it is a c-clip rear end, so if a c-clip fails, out slides your axle etc
That's why you get Diff covers from hell.
Even though it's a C-clip, that isn't going to stop me personally from doing the swap.
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its something really close to that, its almost not noticeable of a difference, the only thing that turns me off of the 8.8 is that it is a c-clip rear end, so if a c-clip fails, out slides your axle etc
But they also make a C-clip eliminator for it.
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Unread 04-15-2010, 07:13 PM   #10
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full size Dana 60's

No but really I'd go with 44's
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Unread 04-15-2010, 07:54 PM   #11
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i'm going with ford 8.8, Superior Axle&Gear C-clip eliminator kit, to avoid the wheel spacers.
The 8.8 is 3/4'' narrower per side. dana 44 are hard to find.
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Unread 04-15-2010, 08:09 PM   #12
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D44 for simplicity of instal, if you can't find one or find one for a decent price, go 8.8, but you may have just as much, or more $$ in an 8.8 after you get the brackets and get them welded on.


BTW..... I know that TJ in your avatar, you didn't happen to buy that off of a guy on here by the name of red_smoke did you?



He liked the look of that jeep so much, he kind of copied it on his new rig

"cept this one has a diesel swap
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Unread 04-15-2010, 08:28 PM   #13
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Yes sir! It was red_smoke's TJ. My dad bought it from him. I have a xj and he has the TJ. His new rig is looking pretty awesome. I really envy the diesel swap.

We've done some work to that TJ. Started with the interior though because everything else was pretty stout. Herculined the floors, painted the dash, quadratec floormats, and nice Iggee (sp?) seat covers. Its looking real nice. still have yet to put it through some real tests but I feel that will be soon. I love spring.

It's still in loving hands and part of the Jeep forum community.
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