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Unread 10-29-2012, 01:01 AM   #151
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Did some tinkering today on the XJ. Finally got around to pulling the belly pan to investigate something I had suspected:

Yep - trashed transmission mount. I was getting some horrible rattle/thumping/vibes from time to time and could even feel it in the floorboard. I looked all over the underside for a few weeks hoping I'd find something other than this that was right there in front of me and quick to fix. Nope - bad mount. I also noticed the bolt holes in the belly pan are not centered:

I marked center and point to it in the pic and you can see the trans mount holes are off center to the driver side about 1/2". I need to contact TnTCustoms in the morning to find out if the belly pans they sell are year specific so I know whether to order an off center tranny mount or not. I'll keep the thread posted on what I find out.

I also decided to pull the front driveshaft while under there to swap it with the spare I have. The spare was gonna be used for a HnT but I want to get the sloppy play in the slip shaft outta there. The spare is solid.

So - this is what I left it as for tonight - all jacked up

Besides - my daughters were itchin to do some punkin' carvin'

I'll be back with whatever it is I get to next and in the meantime Happy Halloween!!........................
Gotcha beat

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Unread 10-29-2012, 08:19 AM   #152
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^^^ My seven year old said the one on the right is especially wicked

Nice work - I guess you could say I was going for quantity not quality
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Unread 10-29-2012, 02:35 PM   #153
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How about my pumpkin?
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Unread 10-29-2012, 03:19 PM   #154
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^^^ That's awesome! Eat, sleep, $h!t, and carve Jeep.
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Unread 10-29-2012, 03:35 PM   #155
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So - I called TnT Customs this morning and found out I have an older model bellypan on a newer model XJ. Which is why the tranny mount bolt holes on the pan are offset to the driver side and the bolts on the old mount are centered. I made a call to O'Reilly's and had a '99 XJ transmission mount waiting for me to pick up.

Here is the difference:



The bolt holes to mount this to the transmission are the exact same and the only modification I needed to do was grind the alignment bump down on the exhaust hanger bracket that goes between the mount and the transmission:




Before I went any further with the t-mount/bellypan I went ahead and swapped in the new-to-me front shaft:



Then I put the new trans mount in with some blue locktite on the 2 mounting bolts:



With everything put back together I took it around the block some for a test spin:




A night and day difference. No more random, violent vibes/thumping/popping

I'm hoping to upgrade my steering next with a Crown HD linkage assembly. Hopefully sooner than later as I have quite a bit of play in the TRE/pitman arm joint - until next time.....................
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Unread 10-29-2012, 07:07 PM   #156
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is that Trans mount easy to replace?? I have been chasing down vibes for a few weeks and when I get under the heep I can push up on the TC and I notice little play in the tranny mount... I thought this could cause vibe's and I think you have confirmed that my friend! doesnt look like it took too much to replace that mount..
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Unread 10-29-2012, 09:25 PM   #157
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^^^The trans mount itself is nothing - two bolts. The only reason mine was somewhat a PITA is the heavy@ss bellypan. It replaces the factory crossmember and isn't exactly an easy one-man job to pull off and put back on. But the transmission mount is as easy as it gets. Once you get the 4 trans/crossmember nuts off (13mm) then pull the crossmember (factory is two bolts per side). The trans mount is just two bolts. They are locktite blue from the factory so I used my airgun instead of messing with my breaker bar. Put the new one up and locktite it in. Easy cheezy
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Unread 10-29-2012, 09:40 PM   #158
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Good pictures, jealous of your belly skids. A friend just gave me a tc skid off his 85' cherokee but it unfortunately doesnt fit my 98'. I read online that the trans mount to crossmember nuts are to be torqued to 35ft lb. Dont torque them, it snapped a stud right off mine. Just put a 13mm socket on a decent sized ratchet and get them tight, dont over do it. Make sure the trans is supported before pulling that crossmember!
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Unread 10-29-2012, 09:50 PM   #159
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Good pictures, jealous of your belly skids. A friend just gave me a tc skid off his 85' cherokee but it unfortunately doesnt fit my 98'. I read online that the trans mount to crossmember nuts are to be torqued to 35ft lb. Dont torque them, it snapped a stud right off mine. Just put a 13mm socket on a decent sized ratchet and get them tight, dont over do it. Make sure the trans is supported before pulling that crossmember!
I got the bellypan off a guy in Lee's Summit via KCJC for a great price. It had never been installed but I got it for much less than they go for new. That s.o.b. is stout!

I just hand tightened the 13mm nuts but 35ft/lbs isn't very much torque anyway. I used a little 1/8" drive deepwell 13mm. I put my jack under the oil pan and a jackstand under the exhaust muffler. You have to keep enough room under the t-case/tailhousing for room to work.
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Unread 10-29-2012, 09:58 PM   #160
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I got the bellypan off a guy in Lee's Summit via KCJC for a great price. It had never been installed but I got it for much less than they go for new. That s.o.b. is stout!

I just hand tightened the 13mm nuts but 35ft/lbs isn't very much torque anyway. I used a little 1/8" drive deepwell 13mm. I put my jack under the oil pan and a jackstand under the exhaust muffler. You have to keep enough room under the t-case/tailhousing for room to work.
It didnt seem like it was to much torque until I heard "snap." I had just bolted the crossmember to the frame/unibody and was tightening the final mount nut, then the nut/stud fell inside the crossmember and I had to remove it again to replace the mount! Who makes that skid if you dont mind me asking? I saw a rustys oil pan/trans skid on CL a month or so back, seemed like you had to drill quite a few holes in the frame which Im trying to stay away from. I have a teraflex oil pan skid that bolts to the bottom of my ax15 bellhousing, Im searching for a gas tank skid. I already put a gouge in my gas tank, and the first time wheeling my wrangler at ks rocks I cracked its fuel tank.
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Unread 10-29-2012, 10:35 PM   #161
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^^^ TnT Customs HD bellypan. THE best around IMO.
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Unread 10-31-2012, 06:17 PM   #162
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Thanks a bunch for that info since its so easy and cheap I mean I might as well ive replaced everything else on my own just never even thought about doing the TRANS MOUNT, ill get that swapped out thanks! appreciate all the details also, I might not have supported the tranny up, lol that is something one would need to know im sure!
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How about my pumpkin?
nice!

This was mine from last year
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Unread 11-01-2012, 07:07 PM   #164
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^^^Now that is some nice carving!
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Unread 11-01-2012, 07:29 PM   #165
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Went to PicknPull and a local metal shop today. I was lookin for a fan shroud but no luck. I wasn't leaving empty handed so I wrenched off a fan cluth from a '98 4.0 ZJ. Then picked up a couple 1x2x5 flatbar "blocks" and some 1.5 square tube (.125 walls).



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The fan clutch swap is cake. First pull the old assembly off by removing the four 1/2" nuts at the pulley:


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Then remove the four 13mm bolts to separate the clutch from the fan:


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The two side by side:



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Then bolt the ZJ clutch to the fan:



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Then bolt the new-to-me assembly back on:


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And viola - a simple, cheap "upgrade" that is direct fit with nothing else needed:



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The clutch ran me $16 and the steel $11 - so all in I got the makings of 3 mods for under 30 bucks. The blocks and square tube are for something I hope to get to in the next week so I'll see how things go and update when updates are made.

Until next time........................
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