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Unread 01-29-2013, 04:03 PM   #121
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These are awesome!!!

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Unread 01-29-2013, 04:35 PM   #122
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What you need to figure out I guess is first which pins go to which needles and then figure out whether they run off of amperage gain wattage gain or voltage gain. Then figure out whether you can find a way to make a machine that does the same (I would assume that a dimmer switch may work???)

I may be able to get you an ECU on the cheap but I'll have to see about that one.



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Thanks guys!

The graphics shop is backordered, and I have a plan to combat the issues with the ghosting, which in order to look somewhat factory, will just need to have 2 extra layers. that should do it... the stock lighting is stronger than I expected. If going LED or otherwise, people may need to use less layers, but it is twice the material I expected on these, and a bit more printing.

Thus is why we try and try before getting them out, right?

Ive got a few people in mind who have helped with these from early on that I would like to participate in my first test run, hopefully in the first week of Feb. Look for a PM as I get my notes together.
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Unread 01-29-2013, 05:42 PM   #123
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Thanks guys!

The graphics shop is backordered, and I have a plan to combat the issues with the ghosting, which in order to look somewhat factory, will just need to have 2 extra layers. that should do it... the stock lighting is stronger than I expected. If going LED or otherwise, people may need to use less layers, but it is twice the material I expected on these, and a bit more printing.

Thus is why we try and try before getting them out, right?

Ive got a few people in mind who have helped with these from early on that I would like to participate in my first test run, hopefully in the first week of Feb. Look for a PM as I get my notes together.
So if you have leds can you just pull some layers off or is it more complicated then that.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 05:23 AM   #124
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So if you have leds can you just pull some layers off or is it more complicated then that.
I think it will depend on the LED setup. if the LEDs are like the ones I had (pretty dim, and eventually destroyed by my dimmer) it will just be a matter of pulling off a layer, which would need to be tried for personal preference before the needles are put back in.
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Unread 01-30-2013, 08:01 AM   #125
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Thanks guys!

The graphics shop is backordered, and I have a plan to combat the issues with the ghosting, which in order to look somewhat factory, will just need to have 2 extra layers. that should do it... the stock lighting is stronger than I expected. If going LED or otherwise, people may need to use less layers, but it is twice the material I expected on these, and a bit more printing.

Thus is why we try and try before getting them out, right?

Ive got a few people in mind who have helped with these from early on that I would like to participate in my first test run, hopefully in the first week of Feb. Look for a PM as I get my notes together.
jut like an extra 2 sheets of black for shading? couldn't that be done with a much cheaper material to save cost? and be easier on the cutter...

I noticed the ghosting but I thought maybe it was just the camera. Dont LEDs put out more light?
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Unread 01-31-2013, 06:51 AM   #126
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Its not so much to block light, but to soften the light that does come through the white parts. If you look at the pictures above, there are strange shadows where you can see the internal reflections of the plastic they use for support and to refract light to under the needles. I dont think it will change the pricing point much, if at all, because the layers I think can be used from pieces that are scrapped anyhow. (36" sheet, 12" max cut area for alignment purposes right now)

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Its not so much to block light, but to soften the light that does come through the white parts. If you look at the pictures above, there are strange shadows where you can see the internal reflections of the plastic they use for support and to refract light to under the needles. I dont think it will change the pricing point much, if at all, because the layers I think can be used from pieces that are scrapped anyhow. (36" sheet, 12" max cut area for alignment purposes right now)

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So really... you will be saving money. Thats how you do it!
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If I get my LED bulbs in the mail anytime soon we could test it out considering you're what, 45 minutes from me?

Doubt I'll get them within the week though, stupid chinese shipping.
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Would you be apposed to doing a write-up on how to disassemble then reassemble the cluster? Do the gauge needles need to be calibrated or are they notched at a specific location
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If I get my LED bulbs in the mail anytime soon we could test it out considering you're what, 45 minutes from me?

Doubt I'll get them within the week though, stupid chinese shipping.
See what we can do, I bet the bulbs will be here before then.

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Would you be apposed to doing a write-up on how to disassemble then reassemble the cluster? Do the gauge needles need to be calibrated or are they notched at a specific location
Unfortunately not notched. Ive seen a good install video for an indiglow type aftermarket mask that I will be borrowing some cues from. I would say not as easy as installing new tires like the pre-97s, more like installing a SYE. Doable at home, but not super easy.
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See what we can do, I bet the bulbs will be here before then.



Unfortunately not notched. Ive seen a good install video for an indiglow type aftermarket mask that I will be borrowing some cues from. I would say not as easy as installing new tires like the pre-97s, more like installing a SYE. Doable at home, but not super easy.
This is completely unrelated, but I think on the "explode offroad" sticker you should put the XJ grill slats and the turn signals under the headlights in white... or sell one of all kinds of jeeps.
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This is completely unrelated, but I think on the "explode offroad" sticker you should put the XJ grill slats and the turn signals under the headlights in white... or sell one of all kinds of jeeps.
Noted!

Anywho...

Just got off the phone with my contact at Accugraphics. He has a sample print in hand, and will be emailing me photos of the precision tomorrow. If all goes well, its ordering time for the machine, and should not take long to get my setup calibrated to work with it.

Its making me a bit giddy

Ive also thought about the requests for the face plates for AC controls I had in the past. With the new machine and material, that should be doable now. I'll just have to find a 97+ and a pre97 unit to make demo models from.

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Noted!

Anywho...

Just got off the phone with my contact at Accugraphics. He has a sample print in hand, and will be emailing me photos of the precision tomorrow. If all goes well, its ordering time for the machine, and should not take long to get my setup calibrated to work with it.

Its making me a bit giddy

Ive also thought about the requests for the face plates for AC controls I had in the past. With the new machine and material, that should be doable now. I'll just have to find a 97+ and a pre97 unit to make demo models from.

I'm getting way to excited for these ha. I you need to hurry up and make them!
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I'm getting way to excited for these ha. I you need to hurry up and make them!
trust me, I would love to have them out the door! My wife noted last night that Ive got 5 jobs at the moment, and only 1 and a half are paying
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trust me, I would love to have them out the door! My wife noted last night that Ive got 5 jobs at the moment, and only 1 and a half are paying
Well I'm sure she won't be complaining when there all paying!
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