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Unread Today, 12:37 PM   #1
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Looking for advice on axles...

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I have a 90 XJ with 4.0L and AW4. D30 non-disconnect front and D35 rear. I'm wanting to do a 4.5 inch lift and 32's soon, and wanted to get to 4.10 gears at the same time. I have been scouring junkyards for a set of axles out of a 4 cylinder XJ for 4.10 gears, but haven't come up with anything yet. So I found a set of axles on craiglist last night. D30 low pinion with 4.10 gears but needs brakes. D35 rear with 4.10, ARB locker, and disc brakes. He is asking $275 each or $500 for both. Not really interested in the front, since I already have a high pinion non-disconnect, and I could regear to 4.10 for want he wants for the axle, or hope I find a 4 cylinder front axle. Now I know the rear D35 is nothing to be proud of, but I figure that because it already has disc brakes, an ARB, and gears, with just 32" tires it would be ok for a few years until I put one tons under this thing. Especially if I could get that rear axle for $200-250. What do you guys think?

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Even though its a Dana35, and we all know it could blow up at any time, its not a bad deal. 32's should be just fine on it and the disk brakes are a nice touch. The ARB, even used, is worth more than what he is asking. I would go for it, figure out the front axle (regear or swap) and then have some fun with it before you upgrade to 1 tons.
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Never thought I'd endorse a d35, but if you're running 32's and aren't nuts on the skinny pedal it should be okay. Keep your shafts from your old axle as spares. I mean...I would normally suggest an 8.25 or even an 8.8 but as an interim before going to ton's down the road $275 is a good deal on a bolt-on axle. Way less than you'd spend buying and regearing an 8.25 which wouldn't have the locker or discs, and less than buying and swapping in a 4.10 8.8 (unless you're a good welder in which case it's still close).

I say go for it, run it til you break it and go to tons later.
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I wouldn't waste the money on a D35 in general, much less one with a locker. It's beyond me why anyone would even waste the money to install a locker in a 35 in the first place. If you know enough to know you need a locker you should know enough to know how ****ty a D35 is.

Buy the front and find an 8.8 with 4.10 gears to match it. I can find them for $100 around here all day long and even if you can't weld you can always do the cutting/grinding first and get someone to weld the perches and shock mounts for you and it would still cost less than regearing an axle would. An 8.8 is stronger than an XJ 44 or 8.25, already has disc brakes, has a boatload of aftermarket support and tons of them came with 4.10 gears both open and limited slip. Look for one out of a 95-01 Explorer or Mercury Mountaineer. They're only slightly more narrow than stock XJ axles and come in a bunch of different gear setups. If you can look at the donor vehicle first look for 87, 89 (95-98 model years), or 97 for open diff 4.10s, or f7, k6, d7, or r7 for limited slip 4.10 on the door tag. Those are axle codes and will indicate which gear set is in the axle. IIRC D7 is the most common for Explorer 4.10 LSDs, some of those codes cross over with Ranger 8.8s.

As for the front, talk him down on it. The difference in strength isn't much and really not an issue running 32s. Brakes are inexpensive and swapping the axle in is a lot cheaper and easier than regearing.

Realistically though, if you want tons just save the money towards tons and don't waste your time and money until something breaks and becomes necessary. There's better upgrades out there for the money than swapping in a 35 that's pointlessly locked.
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Yeah I guess I am kinda torn. I found out today that the front axle also needs hub assemblies along with the brakes (not hard work, but adds about $200). I have thought about doing an 8.8 swap, but if I am going to do that kind of fabrication, I only want to do it once and that will be in a few years when I go big on this thing with one tons. My goal right now is just to get it trail worthy enough to have a little fun, and it will be a city driver for a good part of the week too, so going big right now is not an option. I guess the axles are appealing because they are cheap and a direct bolt in. A D35 is the last axle on this earth that I want, but having an ARB 4.10s and discs for maybe $200 and keeping two of my old axle shafts for spares I guess sounds alright. Who knows I may even take the ARB out and sell it, come out on top of this deal?
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Yeah I guess I am kinda torn. I found out today that the front axle also needs hub assemblies along with the brakes (not hard work, but adds about $200). I have thought about doing an 8.8 swap, but if I am going to do that kind of fabrication, I only want to do it once and that will be in a few years when I go big on this thing with one tons. My goal right now is just to get it trail worthy enough to have a little fun, and it will be a city driver for a good part of the week too, so going big right now is not an option. I guess the axles are appealing because they are cheap and a direct bolt in. A D35 is the last axle on this earth that I want, but having an ARB 4.10s and discs for maybe $200 and keeping two of my old axle shafts for spares I guess sounds alright. Who knows I may even take the ARB out and sell it, come out on top of this deal?
How big are you planning on going that you need tons?
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How big are you planning on going that you need tons?
Probably 38s, also want to be full width when it happens.
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