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Unread 05-11-2011, 10:00 PM   #1
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Long Travel Shocks for XJ Questions

Hey guys, I've used the best Jeep forum search engine there is here and I can't find the info that I need so I'm resorting to making this thread.

I need longer travel shocks for my 4.5 lift on my XJ. It is still a short arm lift btw. I upgraded from a 3 inch but didn't have the cash for the shocks at the time so I kept the 3 inch shocks on there. I finally got the cash up and got referred to Zone Offroad for good riding shocks. So I ordered them. Got them today and they are the same exact size as the 3 inch lift shocks. Zone claims they can run the one size successfully on both lifts with no problems which is why (I found out later) that they have the same part number. Well, needless to say, they are too short. I get no more down travel then my 3 inch RC's.

So I had a few questions.

1. Who makes a decently priced long travel shock for a 4.5 inch lift?
2. Can I just run long arm extended travel shocks? If so from who?
3. Can I just run 6.5 inch shocks instead?
4. Has anyone tried Detours shock cheaters and/or rear shock extenders?

I'm not so worried about uptravel and compressing the shock too much. I'm bump stopped wayyyyy before that would even happen. My fenders are not cut and I purposely went nuts bump stopping them to make sure they didn't hit. I want more droop while crawling and stuff. I'm getting ready to install my 2nd locker finally in my Jeep and I want as much traction as possible. I loved the way my 3 inch lift flexed out. It actually seems like I get less with the bigger lift because of the shortness of the shocks. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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Unread 05-12-2011, 10:57 PM   #2
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Most shock makers publish the compressed and extended lengths of their products. Flex your Cherokee and measure, then purchase the shocks that fit your needs. A shock that is too short or too long is a waste of money, you want shocks that fit. Shock extenders are a band-aid solutions and you still end up with the same shock travel length.

Go with a quality shock like OME, Doetsch Tech, Bilstein, Fox etc. Cheap shocks (SuperLift, SkyJacker, Zone, Rancho) are cheap for a reason.

Short Control Arms can limit your suspension extension as can shocks that are too short.

You can use the chart to determine some commonly used shocks and their specifications.

Shock Lengths



Brand/Model # Extended Collapsed Travel Position
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Napa 37083 (Stock) 21.2 13 8.2 Front
Monroe 32252 (* Stock) 21.25 13 8.1 Front
Monroe 37193 (* 1-3 “ Lift) 24.25 13.37 10.8 Front
Monroe 911524 (* UpCountry) 21.00 13.4 7.6 Front
Doetsch DT3350 ( 3-5” Lift) 26.5 15.5 11.0 Front
ES1000 ES124515 (* 3" Lift) 24.50 14.38 10.0 Front
ES1000 ES121515 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.52 12.72 8.8 Front
ES3000 ES324515 (* 3" Lift) 24.70 14.52 10.2 Front
ES3000 ES321515 (* 0-2" Lift) 20.24 12.45 7.8 Front
ES9000 ES921515 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.75 13.06 8.6 Front
ES9000 ES924515 (* 3" Lift) 24.70 14.52 10.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-H7016 (* 1-3" Lift) 22.75 13.54 9.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-H7025 (* 3-5" Lift) 24.75 14.54 10.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-N8016 (* 1-3" Lift) 22.75 13.54 9.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-N8025 (* 3-5" Lift) 24.75 14.54 10.2 Front
Skyjacker SJA-M9016 (* 1-3" Lift) 22.75 13.54 9.2 Front
Rancho RS5239 (* 3" Lift) 23.75 14.37 9.38 Front
Rancho RS5128 (* Stock) 20.87 13.00 7.8 Front
Rancho RS99239 (* 3" Lift) 23.75 14.37 9.38 Front
Rancho RS99128 (* Stock) 20.87 13.00 7.8 Front
Rancho RSX17317 (* 3" Lift) 23.75 14.50 9.25 Front
Rancho RSX13036 (* Stock) 20.50 12.87 7.6 Front
Bilstein F4-B46-1798 (Stock+Upcountry) 21.50 13.25 8.25 Front
Bilstein F4-BE5-6241-H8 (4” Lift)……………………………………….………….Front


Brand/Model # Extended Collapsed Travel Position
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NAPA 37027 (Stock) 20.0 12.8 7.2 Rear
Monroe 32269 (* Stock) 21.50 13.37 8.1 Rear
Monroe 37194 (* Upcountry) 21.12 13.87 7.2 Rear
Monroe 911525 (* Upcountry) 21.50 13.87 7.2 Rear
Monroe 37029 (1-3” Lift ) 23.00 14.375 8.6 Rear
Superlift SLF-85112 (* 2-4" Lift) 24.00 14.50 10 Rear
Superlift SLF-84140 (* 3-5" Lift) 26.07 15.57 10.5 Rear
Superlift SLF-85080 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.57 13.32 8.25 Rear
ES1000 ES124509 (* 3" Lift) 24.86 14.84 10 Rear
ES1000 ES121515 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.52 12.97 8.5 Rear
ES3000 ES324509 (* 3" Lift) 24.84 14.82 10 Rear
ES3000 ES322509 (* 0-2" Lift) 22.58 13.71 8.8 Rear
ES9000 ES922509 (* 0-2" Lift) 22.58 13.72 8.8 Rear
ES9000 ES924509 (* 3" Lift) 24.84 14.82 10 Rear
Skyjacker SJA-N8058 (* 3-5" Lift) 24.84 14.82 10 Rear
Skyjacker SKA-H7058 (* 3-5" Lift) 24.84 14.82 10 Rear
Doetsch DT-3000 (* 2" Lift) 22.50 13.50 9 Rear
Doetsch DT-3000 (* 4" Lift) 24.50 14.50 10 Rear
Doetsch DT-8000 (* 4" Lift) 24.50 14.50 10 Rear
Rancho RS5194 (* 2-3" Lift) 23.25 14.37 8.8 Rear
Rancho RS5259 (* Stock) 21.50 13.50 8 Rear
Rancho RSX13037 (* 0-2" Lift) 21.12 13.50 7.62 Rear
Bilstien F4-B46-1799 (Stock+UpCountry) 21.50 13.25 8.25 Rear
Bilstein F4-BE5-6686-H6 (4” Lift) …………………………………………….Rear



Note: * These lift heights were included where the shock lengths were found. These were the suggested shocks for that amount of lift. I have no way to ensure these are accurate.

Front Shocks = Bottom Eyelet With Top Stud Mount
Rear Shocks = Bottom/Top Eyelet Mount
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Unread 05-14-2011, 12:09 AM   #3
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Tim, Thank you once again for your knowledge and help.

If I used say a Shock Cheater from Detours that was 2 inches. Wouldn't that give me 2 more inches of down travel on the same shock? I'm looking for more down travel not up travel so compression is not a concern.
I measured for my shocks with it flexed. I have 26 inches. Now, I have a 1 inch TC drop that is going to be eliminated very soon. I noticed when I disconnected the shock and went full flex the the U-joints on both ends of the front drive shaft were just oh so shy of binding on themselves. So, I'm thinking they might hit when the TC drop is removed since the angles will be greater. The short arms actually flex pretty nice when they are not restricted by the shocks. It sucks because I already purchased the shocks and only need 2 more inches for the proper travel. Just trying to explore my options without killing the bank. Thanks!!!
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A 2" shock extender would lower the operating range of the shock, basically removing 2" of up-travel and adding 2' of down-travel.

At 5" of lift the front drive shaft will fine. With an SYE, the rear drive shaft will also be OK.
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Thanks again Tim. Like I said, I'm not worried about up travel but was concerned with the down travel and the joints coming so close to binding. That's good to know about the 5 inches of lift theory. I fell a little better about it now. I'm looking in to getting longer shocks made. Basically a JK shock but set up to install in an XJ which will give me the 26 inches of travel I need. So no cheaters or extensions needed. I already have the SYE ready to install, I just need good weather to put it in. It sucks because it's supposed to rain everyday thru Sunday. Thanks again for the expertise!
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ome long travels are great for flex and on road riding. I have about 4.5 - 5 inches of lift and they give me tons of droop
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ome long travels are great for flex and on road riding. I have about 4.5 - 5 inches of lift and they give me tons of droop
Are you running a stock drive shaft in the front or did you have to get one custom length for the extra travel? Just trying cover all bases here. Thanks.
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ome long travels are great for flex and on road riding. I have about 4.5 - 5 inches of lift and they give me tons of droop
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Running the OME "L's" and at 6.5" I can drop the bottom out. Front DS really isn't a concern unless something is broken Unless you are running LA's with extended brake lines you will never pull the front shaft apart.

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X2

Running the OME "L's" and at 6.5" I can drop the bottom out. Front DS really isn't a concern unless something is broken Unless you are running LA's with extended brake lines you will never pull the front shaft apart.

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Well that makes me feel a little better. I have short arms and don't plan on long arms for a while. Too much other stuff to get first. It's just my current shocks are my limiters right now and I know that is no good. I need about another 2-2 1/2 inches of down travel to be perfect. I already have new shocks in the works. Apparently, Wj rear shocks with a stud conversion on the top will be the perfect length for my set up. And they'll be a little stronger at the mounting point. Thank you for the great information. I'm glad I don't need to order a new shaft now as well.
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