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Unread 10-18-2013, 07:42 AM   #1
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Long arms vs. short arms

Which ones are better and why? Please let me know

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Unread 10-18-2013, 12:37 PM   #2
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If you can't tell which ones are better and why I suggest you use the search function. Or look at my build thread pics. Or any other build and compare short and long arm. Even Google will help you.
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Neither one is "better", application pending. Search. There has been a zillionty times.
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Unread 10-18-2013, 01:58 PM   #4
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Neither one is "better", application pending. Search. There has been a zillionty times.
I guess it is application specific. Although, If I were to build a LCOG set up I would still have long arms at 3". Can't beat the droop. LCA relocation brackets work well too.
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I guess it is application specific. Although, If I were to build a LCOG set up I would still have long arms at 3". Can't beat the droop. LCA relocation brackets work well too.
Suspension travel should be the last reason to do a long arm. I gained no travel from short arms to my long armed 3 link. Still run 10" Bilsteins. I did it more to eliminate the bind from the factory 4 link.
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Suspension travel should be the last reason to do a long arm. I gained no travel from short arms to my long armed 3 link. Still run 10" Bilsteins. I did it more to eliminate the bind from the factory 4 link.


I can agree with this.

my shortarm rig flexes just as well as my buddys long arm rig and we both run 10" travel shocks
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Unread 10-18-2013, 04:17 PM   #7
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I haven't found or seen any short arms flex as well as mine or my buddies. Long arms should beat 4 link short arms with ease. If you are beating long arms flexing then the guy with long arms does not have it set up correctly. With long arms too many people are concerned about stuffing the tire into the fender well and not droop. That is what the long arms are for.
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I haven't found or seen any short arms flex as well as mine or my buddies. Long arms should beat 4 link short arms with ease. If you are beating long arms flexing then the guy with long arms does not have it set up correctly. With long arms too many people are concerned about stuffing the tire into the fender well and not droop. That is what the long arms are for.
In this short/long comparison, are we talking about flex or real world trail use? Theres quite a bit more to it then "oommggzz my coils gonnna falls out."

Still though, stock 4 link geometry isnt the most wonderful thing either, If I was to shy away from short arms Id like to go with a mid arm 3 link setup. Better geometry overall without clearance loss of the long arms.

Theres no perfect setup though. All depends on where ya wheel, etc.
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I haven't found or seen any short arms flex as well as mine or my buddies. Long arms should beat 4 link short arms with ease. If you are beating long arms flexing then the guy with long arms does not have it set up correctly. With long arms too many people are concerned about stuffing the tire into the fender well and not droop. That is what the long arms are for.
No. Long arms weren't designed for ZOMG kind of droop. Like I said, droop is the last reason for long arms. As for short arms not flexing, false. I could make them flex just as well as long arms. Shock length, track bar, control arm mount clearance all plays into this. Long arms seem to flex better because of people usually upgrading shocks and when they mount so far back, it clears up a lot of clearance at the axle end for arm movement. Which can easily be made with a little time and a grinder for short arms. I won't lie, I sometimes wish I got a set of Rokmen arms and stayed short arm, especially for my height. As far as flex goes, it really has become overrated. I could gain 2 to 4 inches more droop, but why? I have lockers and could care less about carrying a tire every now and then...
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If I was to shy away from short arms Id like to go with a mid arm 3 link setup. Better geometry overall without clearance loss of the long arms.
Yes. I wouldn't waste my time with a yeah radius arm setup. True 3 link or 4 link. I wish I would have built my own at this point. I may eventually redo my mounts...
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