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TJ Wrangler 2 10.53%
XJ Cherokee 17 89.47%
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Unread 06-18-2013, 07:34 AM   #16
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Give me your TJ.

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Unread 06-18-2013, 07:36 AM   #17
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You can have my XJ.

(I'll just buy a beater XJ)
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Unread 06-18-2013, 08:15 AM   #18
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Based on the photos, I'd take that XJ over any TJ. It can all be explained with one word every TJ owner has used, IMPRACTICAL! TJ's are good for single people who have 1 friend.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 08:21 AM   #19
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Anyway, it's good to see you're still around. Too bad we won't be seeing God anymore. But, think of it this way. Any new Jeep buyer is gonna pick the TJ cuz the Wrangler is the icon of sportiness. As an experienced XJ owner, you (should) know better now.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 08:34 AM   #20
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Based on the photos, I'd take that XJ over any TJ. It can all be explained with one word every TJ owner has used, IMPRACTICAL! TJ's are good for single people who have 1 friend.
I'm this person.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 08:57 AM   #21
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ill trade you my XJ for that TJ...unlike you i want my TJ back
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Unread 06-18-2013, 09:20 AM   #22
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When it's time for my next build, it will be YJ/TJ based. Reason being, well, it has a real frame. I'm already experiencing some of the XJ's limitations with the unibody. Don't get me wrong, I love my XJ. The wheel base is awesome. You said you don't like the rear coils in a TJ, but you can get leafs back by doing a 102-104" stretch with backwards XJ springs.
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Unread 06-18-2013, 09:38 AM   #23
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When it's time for my next build, it will be YJ/TJ based. Reason being, well, it has a real frame. I'm already experiencing some of the XJ's limitations with the unibody. Don't get me wrong, I love my XJ. The wheel base is awesome. You said you don't like the rear coils in a TJ, but you can get leafs back by doing a 102-104" stretch with backwards XJ springs.
Good points here. Once you get to a certain point the unibody can be a real downer. Im in the process of cutting out a bad section in my rail and plating it, and its almost scary just how thin the rails really are. A true frame is about where my Wrangler envy ends though.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 11:28 AM   #24
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What's the verdict?
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Unread 06-23-2013, 11:52 AM   #25
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Good points here. Once you get to a certain point the unibody can be a real downer. Im in the process of cutting out a bad section in my rail and plating it, and its almost scary just how thin the rails really are. A true frame is about where my Wrangler envy ends though.
Unless you want a body lift there's really not much difference between our frame rails and Wrangler and other modern frames anyway. You could realistically plate the top of our frame rails and add a little bracing and they're just as if not stronger than Wrangler frames.

Plus our frame rails don't rot in bad spots nearly as bad as YJ frames do.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 12:04 PM   #26
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Xj has room, offroad capabilities, easy to work on, reliable, homebrew ,buildable to no extent (which you know), not the worst gas mileage of 4x4s, junkyards are full of parts and the list goes on...to me it is a no brainer
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Unread 06-24-2013, 11:56 AM   #27
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Unless you want a body lift there's really not much difference between our frame rails and Wrangler and other modern frames anyway. You could realistically plate the top of our frame rails and add a little bracing and they're just as if not stronger than Wrangler frames.

Plus our frame rails don't rot in bad spots nearly as bad as YJ frames do.
I agree with the rot issue, but Wranglers do not need to have their frames plated to keep rocks from denting and crushing them. Plus, it's a lot easier to weld to a Wrangler frame. I'd say the Wrangler's frame is a decent amount stronger than an XJ's unibody.
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