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Unread 07-07-2013, 10:25 AM   #46
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Just takin a shot in the dark here but probably not a fine tuned shipping price, from the info gathered on here it's still early rough costs.

To each their own man, no reason to knock someone unless you want the same in-return.

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I'm not knockin' it, it's a sweet lookin' rack! But I see all these Jeeps with an EMPTY BASKET on their roof. I'd just have to laugh if I saw one of these pro-looking racks on one of the wanna-be's Jeeps.
I think a higher price will limit this to the serious off-roader

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Unread 07-08-2013, 05:06 AM   #47
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I think it deserves to be over priced. It's looks way too show-off'ish for the everyday XJ.
Yeah but as a customer I'm fine rocking my ****box rack currently on my XJ then spending 900+ dollars of a roof rack from JCR that has all the features I want.

Seriously overpriced, especially considering all the additions are bolt on.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 06:18 AM   #48
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Yeah but as a customer I'm fine rocking my ****box rack currently on my XJ then spending 900+ dollars of a roof rack from JCR that has all the features I want.

Seriously overpriced, especially considering all the additions are bolt on.
I seriously wouldn't consider you as one of the wanna-be's. But do as I did, build your own rack wiith the right size tube to utilize their accessories.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 07:28 AM   #49
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ARB roof racks aren't even that expensive through Quadratec.

$747 shipped to VA just to have 3 sides on it without any of the other features. Overpriced like pretty much everything else they sell.
I would really like to rebuttal this whole post, but we are pretty busy this morning with fulfilling overpriced orders and returning calls from the weekend. Thanks for the quick jabs though!
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Unread 07-08-2013, 07:39 AM   #50
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I would really like to rebuttal this whole post, but we are pretty busy this morning with fulfilling overpriced orders and returning calls from the weekend. Thanks for the quick jabs though!
Seriously? Even a response like this isn't really endearing from a customer service view point.

Obviously the rack is extremely nice and well built, but I'd seriously like to know how you guys are coming up with a 700+ price range for a still almost basic rack.

Now if a rack with sides, extension, tire mount, and prerunner hoop was about 500-650 total, I'd say that's fair.

But come on now, its a buyers market, and if you don't like the customer responses either change the price, or gain a reputation for ****ty customer service by responding the way you did.

I got my rack for 125 shipped, new. Sure its not as beefy as yours, but it does every single thing yours does just fine, and if I wanted I could put a hoop on it.

Personally I'm disappointed as I was extremely interested in that new rack til I saw the price tag.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 08:13 AM   #51
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We set the price based on the time it takes us to manufacture and the cost of materials. It's the same way we price all of our products. I'm sorry that this rack does not fit your budget, but you can't compare it's cost to the cost of some eBay rack made out of conduit and bolts to the factory rack rails.

We would love to have a better price, however, we still have to keep our doors open, which requires making money.

This always rolls to one point; not everyone can afford our products, therefor, pricing is all relative. You may feel it's overpriced, but the next guy has no problem paying for a great rack, great design, many options and can hold 1,000lbs!

The response as been good, we've already sold a years worth of our old cheap rack, which says to us, the pricing is good.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 08:19 AM   #52
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Lol, my rack isn't made of conduit or from eBay for that matter. Nor is it out of my price range, don't assume you know anything about my budget, my point is Why are you insulting potential customers?

Even now you jump straight to "you can't afford it, sucks 2 suck" type logic.

You're a shop, you buy your steel at a highly discounted rate in bulk. Meaning it definitely doesn't cost you 900 to build that rack, especially on a large production scale.

On another note, you shouldnt be putting 1000lbs on top of an xj, even if you "can".
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Unread 07-08-2013, 08:22 AM   #53
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Never said it was way overpriced, but it is slightly. Bring the price down 150 (either off the rack or adjust the bolt on options prices til it totals 100-150) and you have a great rack for a reasonable price.
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It's essentially $50 more (and 12" longer) then our old utility rack was. We are confident that our pricing makes it a great value at it's price.

You've made your point, I'm sorry this rack does not fit your needs.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 08:47 AM   #55
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The response as been good, we've already sold a years worth of our old cheap rack, which says to us, the pricing is good.
You sold a cheaper rack for a year, so how does that justify the success of an expensive rack?
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You sold a cheaper rack for a year, so how does that justify the success of an expensive rack?
We've already sold as many of our new racks in a week, as we did our old rack over the course of its last year in production. The new rack is a better product, ships cheaper and apparently doesn't have issues selling.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 09:31 AM   #57
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We've already sold as many of our new racks in a week, as we did our old rack over the course of its last year in production. The new rack is a better product, ships cheaper and apparently doesn't have issues selling.
That's cool, your statement was a little unclear. I'm not one of the complainers here. I agree that if you want nice stuff, you're gonna pay for it
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Unread 07-08-2013, 09:37 AM   #58
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It's essentially $50 more (and 12" longer) then our old utility rack was. We are confident that our pricing makes it a great value at it's price.

You've made your point, I'm sorry this rack does not fit your needs.
Ah, didn't realize how much the old rack costed. You said cheap earlier and I was thinking more on par with a 200 price range.
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[SIZE="1"][COLOR="silver"]Monstaliner: [url]http://monstaliner.com/[/url]
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Ah, didn't realize how much the old rack costed. You said cheap earlier and I was thinking more on par with a 200 price range.
It was $299 + $175 UPS ground. Shipping killed that rack, thus the reason we had to come up with a modular design like our new one.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 10:02 AM   #60
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I agree with everyone else, to expensive. especially that you all see the need to charge $130 for the hoop which is at most a $30-50 piece of metal. So that's an extra 100 just for what labor? 100 bucks to bend and whire wheel a piece of metal tubing. Especially the fact its bolt, that's awesome but im doing the install and putting the piece together. You should send a rebate to anyone who buys one to pay them for there labor costs lol.

All that aside its an awesome looking rack.
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