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post #16 of 41 Old 01-17-2013, 09:32 AM
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All XJ sliders use self tappers...
He speaks the truth the legs on mine use self tappers to attach to the uniframe, And I had to drill 6 holes in the pinch seam for the bolts on that


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X2, it doesn't take much to dent the factory rockers. I would not want to "skin" the rocker with heavier metal that will just push in on the first hit they take. Google those rockers and throw "Pirate 4x4" into the search. A guy on their didn't have good luck with them.
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The guy that had issues with our Ultimate sliders welded them on. We believe that the integrity of the rockers were compromised from the heat. The XJ body panels are bonded together with epoxy from the factory.

We have not had any other issues with our Ultimate Sliders. Are they for everyone? No, probably not. Everything has it limits in the offroading game.


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The guy that had issues with our Ultimate sliders welded them on. We believe that the integrity of the rockers were compromised from the heat. The XJ body panels are bonded together with epoxy from the factory.

We have not had any other issues with our Ultimate Sliders. Are they for everyone? No, probably not. Everything has it limits in the offroading game.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I think they are a great idea for light wheelers and expedition rigs. They would definitely protect the rockers, just not the whole weight of the XJ. As far as JCR products go, I've got a few things from you guys and I have yet to be disappointed. I need to get some of your rear quarter guards.


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My jcr rear panels were A+ super bad @ss., I was really happy. I'm going to order these sliders soon for sure, however I have read a few people having problems with them fitting, one person with a frame stiffener. I think there awesome for what I'm looking for, for now. ...

Oh and I think there only .120 Dom tubing ... That's the bad part.... But it's cool with me, but serious all out rock hard hit, they will bend maybe.

But I love them and you will see them on my rig soon.

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All XJ sliders use self tappers...
theres no need to use self tappers!!! I built my own and used a long enough grade8 bolt through the frame. I have three "legs" and two bolts per leg. you can see the mounting plates here. On the back side i used a flat stock the same size as the outside than a lock washer and nut. The rear leg is bolted through the frame than one bolt going into the front spring hanger.

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theres no need to use self tappers!!! I built my own and used a long enough grade8 bolt through the frame. I have three "legs" and two bolts per leg. you can see the mounting plates here. On the back side i used a flat stock the same size as the outside than a lock washer and nut. The rear leg is bolted through the frame than one bolt going into the front spring hanger.
I hope you plan on using a sleeve on the inside of the framerail so it does not crush

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If you really want hard core ... Just go with steel tube rocker replacement, like the genright.

I'm sure you can still put a pretty solid beating on the jcr ones, and like anything from jcr, you know it's going to be realllllly well made and their customer service is also just as good.

I can't wait to get these to be honest.

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I've had my JCR sliders on for awhile now. They're pretty solid, I've had no issues
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I hope you plan on using a sleeve on the inside of the framerail so it does not crush
No need to sleeve it. The pressure from the tightened bolts is exerted over an area large enough that when properly torqued it wont cause a problem.

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No need to sleeve it. The pressure from the tightened bolts is exerted over an area large enough that when properly torqued it wont cause a problem.
Keep telling yourself that


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No need to sleeve it. The pressure from the tightened bolts is exerted over an area large enough that when properly torqued it wont cause a problem.
Lol your a special kind of stupid aren't ya. Eventually they will collapse the uniframe. I haven't done my Xj yet but I completely cut out the rockers on my Zj and replaced them with 2x4 and 2x2 directly welded into the a b and c pillars. I have yet to have a single issue.

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I gues none of you have done the mechanical calculations on it have you...Iv had a very well respected and experienced Mechanical engineer do the calculations on it.

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I gues none of you have done the mechanical calculations on it have you...Iv had a very well respected and experienced Mechanical engineer do the calculations on it.
The calculation is, you won't be able to get the right torque on the bolt because the uniframe will be crushing.

We've been working on and playing with XJ's for 10 years. We have first hand experience with the uniframes crushing when bolted through without a sleeve.

The gains you think you are making by skipping "self tappers" is moot. The strength of the sliders comes from the winch seam mount.


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