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post #46 of 58 Old 06-11-2010, 01:20 AM
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Iron rock Offroad, when I get my next XJ thats who I am going though.


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post #47 of 58 Old 06-11-2010, 01:14 PM Thread Starter
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Mine is basically where it is going to stay, 31" and basically stock-ish drive-train. I agree, LP D30 is probably not the stoutest axle out there, but for what I do to mine it will be fine. I am just stoked on getting my AA SYE installed...got some minor vibes still.

To the OP, still stoked on the build, you should start a build thread as soon as you start buying bits.

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Hey man. Its nice to see another islander on here! Since you live in victoria I was wondering if you have dealt with westshore spring at all. They charge 95 an hour for labor so I was wondering if there is any other good shops or if you get what you pay for with them.
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Hey Man,
I hear through the grapevine that they are a really good shop, but other than that I don't really know much about them? I believe the current owner bought out another guy and moved to the current location. He is a Jeep enthusiast and apparently knows his stuff.

I get all of my work done at EDP, I know one of the mechanics there, and they know 4x4's and Cherokee's really well. The guy who did my front end work owned and wheeled a lifted Cherokee for years, so he is very familiar with the setup. The installed my lift, and do all my work (when I have no time).

What are you looking to have done, the whole lift install? I can imagine that a long arm kit install at $95 an hour would get REALLY expensive and fast.

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post #49 of 58 Old 06-11-2010, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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Hey Man,
I hear through the grapevine that they are a really good shop, but other than that I don't really know much about them? I believe the current owner bought out another guy and moved to the current location. He is a Jeep enthusiast and apparently knows his stuff.

I get all of my work done at EDP, I know one of the mechanics there, and they know 4x4's and Cherokee's really well. The guy who did my front end work owned and wheeled a lifted Cherokee for years, so he is very familiar with the setup. The installed my lift, and do all my work (when I have no time).

What are you looking to have done, the whole lift install? I can imagine that a long arm kit install at $95 an hour would get REALLY expensive and fast.
yeah the original place went bankrupt and the current owner who was an employee bought it and its now what it is today. Where is EDP at? the guys at Westshore seem more into jk's and tj's, so real cherokee guys would be awesome to talk to. how much do they charge for labor? im looking to get the whole shebang done, lift, SYE, drive shaft, gears, everything.
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So since my first post on this thread, Ive been mulling over the idea of just throwing components together rather than buy a kit. Here's what I have, and I know I'm probably missing something, or maybe a lot of stuff.

TnT Y-link upgrade
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Clayton LA Upgrade
RK 6.5inch coils
Clayton 6.5inch leafs
Bilstien 5125's for the front
Not sure what shocks for the rear. Maybe OME long travel shocks
Iron Rock Double Shear Trac Bar Conversion
Quick Disco's

Thats as far as I got, so feel free to help me out. And thanks alot guys for all of the feed back so far
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youll need brake lines.
youll need a SYE and CV shaft


and personally, i would recommend 4.5" leafs, longer shackle and relocation brackets. itll cost more but it seems cost isnt too much of an issue given your list. that will ride better and flex better as well.

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TnT Y-link upgrade
-or-
Clayton LA Upgrade
RK 6.5inch coils
Clayton 6.5inch leafs
Bilstien 5125's for the front
Not sure what shocks for the rear. Maybe OME long travel shocks
Iron Rock Double Shear Trac Bar Conversion
Quick Disco's
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and personally, i would recommend 4.5" leafs, longer shackle and relocation brackets. itll cost more but it seems cost isnt too much of an issue given your list. that will ride better and flex better as well.
X2 on the leaf spring set up, a 6.5" leaf spring on stock shackles would probably ride and flex like a dump truck, at least compared to a shorter leaf with shackles/relocation brackets.

Also, just a suggestion, but I would recommend the RE Extreme Duty track bar at that height, and opt for the track bar brace. With that much lift and 35"s you will want to start taking measures to stiffen up the unibody where ever you can, it's not needed immediately, but things like the track bar brace, steering box brace, and unibody stiffeners from companies like TNT, HD Offroad, or Ruff Stuff are highly recommended.

Shocks: Maybe it's just me, but I'd stick with one brand. At very minimum, the same type of shock. Bilstien is a mono-tube, and OME is a Nitrogen gas charged, both have every different performance characteristics. Look at mixing and matching the Bilstien 5100s, 5125s, or 5150s, maybe even RE mono-tubes.

Another point of advice, don't go cheep on swaybar discos I made that mistake and got the POS Warrior Products discos, and hated them. Half the time I wouldn't even reconnect after wheeling trips. Finally got tired of it and upgraded to JKS.

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X2 on the leaf spring set up, a 6.5" leaf spring on stock shackles would probably ride and flex like a dump truck, at least compared to a shorter leaf with shackles/relocation brackets.

Also, just a suggestion, but I would recommend the RE Extreme Duty track bar at that height, and opt for the track bar brace. With that much lift and 35"s you will want to start taking measures to stiffen up the unibody where ever you can, it's not needed immediately, but things like the track bar brace, steering box brace, and unibody stiffeners from companies like TNT, HD Offroad, or Ruff Stuff are highly recommended.

Shocks: Maybe it's just me, but I'd stick with one brand. At very minimum, the same type of shock. Bilstien is a mono-tube, and OME is a Nitrogen gas charged, both have every different performance characteristics. Look at mixing and matching the Bilstien 5100s, 5125s, or 5150s, maybe even RE mono-tubes.

Another point of advice, don't go cheep on swaybar discos I made that mistake and got the POS Warrior Products discos, and hated them. Half the time I wouldn't even reconnect after wheeling trips. Finally got tired of it and upgraded to JKS.
Ya I was planning on getting some TnT stiffeners as well and I didnt know companies other than JKS made quick Disco's For the front end would the IRO double shear trac bar work well, or should i go with RE on that one? Also for the leaf springs. What type of shackles/relocation brackets are there? I mean is a shackle just a shackle, or are some better than others?
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the IRO TB is pretty good for the price, but IMO, the RE HD track bar with the brace is the best you can get. thats what im running.

and any aftermarket 1.5" shackle or so will do. HDoffroadengineering is the company that sells shackle relocation brackets, they will allow you to improve your shackle angle, resulting in a better ride and better flex. there is lots of info about them here and more over on NAXJA

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I have yet to test this for myself yet, but I've heard that a boomerang shackle works really well with the shackle relocation brackets. I do plan on going with a boomerang when I do shackles, but can't give any first hand experiance with them yet. JKS and RE are the only two I know of that make boomerang shackles now, TNT used to, but I haven't seen them on their web site in a while.

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I have yet to test this for myself yet, but I've heard that a boomerang shackle works really well with the shackle relocation brackets. I do plan on going with a boomerang when I do shackles, but can't give any first hand experiance with them yet. JKS and RE are the only two I know of that make boomerang shackles now, TNT used to, but I haven't seen them on their web site in a while.
clayton makes boomerangs. im running them now and so bar i love em
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im using RE 1.5" shackles with my relocation brackets and am having no clearance problems of any kind.

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post #58 of 58 Old 06-14-2010, 09:09 AM
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i have a 96 xj with 4.5 inches of lift full width bronco axles and i am running 35's i have the RE Long arm kit and hate it... i have had to replace the bushings in the control arms 3 time in about 7 months and i dont drive it unless i am goin weelin
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