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Unread 03-15-2014, 01:23 PM   #1
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Increase tow weight?

I started pulling a fishing boat with my 99' Cherokee last fall. Jeep pulls it fine, but it sure does make it squat when I attached the trailer. Without the trailer the jeep sets level. I don't want to change it's ride height, but would like to keep it from sagging so much with trailer attached. Any suggestions?

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Unread 03-15-2014, 02:21 PM   #2
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If there is a way to maybe move the boat back a little bit, it could decrease the tongue weight. I don't know if your trailer is adjustable like mine is. Only other option is to upgrade to a heavier duty spring but I will make it ride stiffer without the boat hooked up.

Leafs like this maybe : http://www.quadratec.com/products/56010_11.htm
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Unread 03-15-2014, 03:43 PM   #3
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Airbags in the rear.

https://www.google.com/search?q=towi...x-a&channel=sb
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Unread 03-15-2014, 05:21 PM   #4
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Thanks for the ideas. I have the boat pushed back about as far as the trailer allows. I didn't realize you could purchase stiffer springs without raising the ride height. The airbags look pretty cool. I'm not too worried about the ride quality.
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Unread 03-15-2014, 10:42 PM   #5
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The air bags are good or you could just install some helper springs. I did this because they are fairly cheap, easy to install and they're solid, so less to break that the airbags. There are several different types of helper springs that you can bolt on.
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Unread 03-16-2014, 12:13 AM   #6
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Get a smaller lighter boat? Lol. The helper springs work good.
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Unread 03-16-2014, 12:29 AM   #7
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If you still have your original leaf-springs, they're probably on their last legs, you may want to consider replacing them and upgrading to the "heavy-duty" leaf-springs if you have the standard ones. Helper springs are a decent option as well but if the leafs are worn out those need to be addressed first or the helper springs will merely be a temporary "band-aid".
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Unread 03-16-2014, 07:46 AM   #8
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another potential could be a weight distubuting hitch setup.
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Unread 03-17-2014, 05:15 AM   #9
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My OEM springs seem to be pretty good, the cherokee sits level. I was under the impression that the helper springs would raise the ride height. A guy at Autozone said they sell those to people as a cheap way to lift the rear and fit larger tires. The bolt-on helper springs look like the easiest and cheapest option for what I need, just didn't want it to look weird if the back end was jacked up.
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Unread 03-17-2014, 09:19 AM   #10
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How much tongue weight are you talking?
You should also measure the xj at rest and with the boat attached; measure the distance between the center of the axle and the bottom of the fender flare; 17" is stock in the rear.

I just finished a build which required 700lbs of tongue weight plus 4 dudes and gear in the xj; I ended up having to build new spring packs. link here

These also work great for not affecting your ride but adding load capacity http://timbren.com/ same basic thought as air bags but without all the complexity.


At the end of the day, either spring resistance or something between the axle and the frame (air bags/timbren's) will change your tail sag. Your OEM spring packs are likely worn a fair amount, just having fresh ones could help a fair amount depending upon your tongue weight.
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Unread 03-17-2014, 09:50 AM   #11
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another potential could be a weight distributing hitch setup.
This is a great resolution that's actually intended for exactly the scenario at hand here.
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Unread 03-20-2014, 02:23 PM   #13
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A trans cooler helps the cherokees a LOT towing.

Helper springs would only raise the ride height because it would slightly increase the thickness of your leaf pack, not enough to be noticeable, he was probably talking about add-a-leafs.

If you're still running stock springs, I guarantee they've sagged, they may have done it evenly, but they've done it. Most people still running stock springs would see .5"-1" of lift just by replacing the stock springs. Dpesn't mean you have to, but I have seen cherokees (like mine) used to tow boats where the leafs sagged so badly the sway bar mount on the axle started impacting the unibody when you hit a bad bump. Even if they're fine now, you may want to add helpers or replace just to avoid trouble down the road.

I have the crown heavier ones from quadratec, and that helps quite a bit, but if I was towing regularly or heavy weights, I'd add helpers (also known as load springs because they only actually come into play under a heavy load). The Quadratec springs did stiffen up the back end a fair amount for me, so be aware of that. They'll make you rethink how you take speed bumps if you've got stuff in the trunk.
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Unread 03-20-2014, 04:19 PM   #14
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I appreciate all your suggestions. I measured 17" from bottom of fender flare to center of wheel on all four corners. I ordered a "Cherokee Specific" catalog from Quadratec. I am about purchasing the stock medium duty spring assembly.
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