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Unread 03-06-2013, 06:20 PM   #931
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AMEN!

There is a wealth of info on the interwebz but you read too much and youll go nuts. According to JF, almost all of my buddy's trail rigs should have detonated by now. According to JF I totally need to regear because of my 31s, my add a leaf should be sagging 3 inches by now, and my driveline vibes should be unbearable. I can read that **** all day long but at the end of the day it works on mine!

Before people like ibjeepin and ktmracer on CF, and before the term "LCG" got overused, the web wheelers would eat this stuff alive. "ahhh, yes, hi. Im new to JF. I wanna run 35s on a 3" lift with stock axles and gears. Any thoughts?"

Can you imagine the web wheelers zoom in? OMMMMGGG ITLL EXPLODE AND TEAR IT IN HALF AND YOUR WIFE WILL LEAVE YOU AND AN ASTEROID WILL HIT EARTH.
I hate how LCOG has become the "Cool" thing to do to your jeep lately. In the 90's/early 2000's having the tallest rig possible was cool but now it's all cool to throw some big tires on a little lift just because people who actually wheel understand why being low, wide and a good WB is the way to go.

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Unread 03-06-2013, 06:24 PM   #932
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Man I could go for a PBR right now. 'Merica!
Im not a huge beer drinker, but Rolling Rock when Im in the mood, like tonight. Otherwise the norm is spiced rum, in the black 100proof plus variety.

I apologize for filling your build thread with heresay and shenanigans. If more of us on JF lived closer itd be far more productive and less cluttery to do this over some wings and smack talk.
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Unread 03-06-2013, 06:26 PM   #933
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I hate how LCOG has become the "Cool" thing to do to your jeep lately. In the 90's/early 2000's having the tallest rig possible was cool but now it's all cool to throw some big tires on a little lift just because people who actually wheel understand why being low, wide and a good WB is the way to go.

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Agreed.
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Unread 03-06-2013, 06:28 PM   #934
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Im not a huge beer drinker, but Rolling Rock when Im in the mood, like tonight. Otherwise the norm is spiced rum, in the black 100proof plus variety.

I apologize for filling your build thread with heresay and shenanigans. If more of us on JF lived closer itd be far more productive and less cluttery to do this over some wings and smack talk.
Not a pale ale fan. As for the shenanigans, I feel my thread is full of it. It's okay, its what makes it fun!
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Unread 03-06-2013, 06:42 PM   #935
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I welded it so I could still pull the shafts. As far as tire wear, it's not that much worse, though the rear wears faster than the front. It's fine on the street other than "barking" around turns
I grew to love that bark in my old seXJ.

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Im not a huge beer drinker, but Rolling Rock when Im in the mood, like tonight. Otherwise the norm is spiced rum, in the black 100proof plus variety.
A man after my own heart.

Why are you opposed to rear 1/4 armor again, weight? How much do they actually weigh, and wouldn't it be worth it to keep the body intact? I don't know how tight most trails are down there, but up here and at Rausch(HINT HINT), they get pretty tight and that extra protection is worth it.
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Unread 03-06-2013, 06:48 PM   #936
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Why are you opposed to rear 1/4 armor again, weight? How much do they actually weigh, and wouldn't it be worth it to keep the body intact? I don't know how tight most trails are down there, but up here and at Rausch(HINT HINT), they get pretty tight and that extra protection is worth it.
1/4" steel armor is going to be very heavy, maybe 60-70 pounds per side. Rust also loves to grow behind it.

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Unread 03-06-2013, 06:58 PM   #937
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1/4" steel armor is going to be very heavy, maybe 60-70 pounds per side. Rust also loves to grow behind it.

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JCR 1/4 armor is 3/16", not 1/4", which weighs ~ 8lbs per square foot. Figure ~5 square feet per side, you're only adding ~80lbs to the whole Jeep, which isn't terrible. It's not like it's a racecar, you add that much weight for a winch and never think twice about it.

I'm sure rust would form behind it eventually, but if everything was painted and properly protected, then you pulled it off once a year or so to clean and repaint it, you wouldn't have issues. Once again, to me, where I wheel, the pro's outweigh the con's any day of the week.
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Unread 03-06-2013, 07:06 PM   #938
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JCR 1/4 armor is 3/16", not 1/4", which weighs ~ 8lbs per square foot. Figure ~5 square feet per side, you're only adding ~80lbs to the whole Jeep, which isn't terrible. It's not like it's a racecar, you add that much weight for a winch and never think twice about it.

I'm sure rust would form behind it eventually, but if everything was painted and properly protected, then you pulled it off once a year or so to clean and repaint it, you wouldn't have issues. Once again, to me, where I wheel, the pro's outweigh the con's any day of the week.
To me the weight isn't worth it, I try to keep my jeep as light as possible. Synthetic winch line is not only for safety but for weight savings as well. I hate the fact that my winch/bumper combo weight all most 250 pounds, and I plan on synthetic line to save about 100 pounds. The weight adds up pretty quick and plus if you aren't getting dents you aren't wheelin right. Haha

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Unread 03-06-2013, 09:39 PM   #939
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I am on the fence about 1/4 panel armor. I am cutting out and re-welding my wheel wells anyways so I might do it. My plan was to run a bead of caulk or something on the upper inner edge before putting it on to keep crap out but my rig sees very little road use so it isnt a huge issue. I used to not be all about saving weight but after my cage is done, it will be a significant amount so I might just skip it. Trails up here get a little close for comfort but I have bashes in my drip rails more than doors/quarter panels. I will also be running synthetic line and after lifting up winches with steel cable and others with synthetic, it kind of shocked me too how much the cable actually adds to weight.
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Unread 03-06-2013, 09:45 PM   #940
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I am on the fence about 1/4 panel armor. I am cutting out and re-welding my wheel wells anyways so I might do it. My plan was to run a bead of caulk or something on the upper inner edge before putting it on to keep crap out but my rig sees very little road use so it isnt a huge issue. I used to not be all about saving weight but after my cage is done, it will be a significant amount so I might just skip it. Trails up here get a little close for comfort but I have bashes in my drip rails more than doors/quarter panels. I will also be running synthetic line and after lifting up winches with steel cable and others with synthetic, it kind of shocked me too how much the cable actually adds to weight.
The steel cable is the weight of the winch.

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Unread 03-06-2013, 09:52 PM   #941
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Yeah about half, what winch do you run?
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Unread 03-06-2013, 10:04 PM   #942
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Yeah about half, what winch do you run?
Just a xrc8 haha it's saved me a bunch though and never let me down.

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Unread 03-06-2013, 10:08 PM   #943
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I have the same one with steel cable but thinking of getting some synthetic line. I will be running a bumper just like ibjeepin's except making it line up with the grill and give it wings so I dont take out the corner markers landing on rocks. It shouldnt stick out much at all tho.
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Unread 03-07-2013, 04:49 AM   #944
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Why are you opposed to rear 1/4 armor again, weight? How much do they actually weigh, and wouldn't it be worth it to keep the body intact? I don't know how tight most trails are down there, but up here and at Rausch(HINT HINT), they get pretty tight and that extra protection is worth it.
Trails are tight here, but I rarely hit the quarters. I'll think about it. I see what you did there with the HINT HINT.....
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Unread 03-07-2013, 04:51 AM   #945
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I have the same one with steel cable but thinking of getting some synthetic line. I will be running a bumper just like ibjeepin's except making it line up with the grill and give it wings so I dont take out the corner markers landing on rocks. It shouldnt stick out much at all tho.
I'm probably going to add sides to my bumper. I've smashed my header panel a time or 12
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